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United physically removing paid passenger from plane

Discussion in 'Non-Vegas Chat' started by tvon, Apr 10, 2017.

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  1. Drewm1972

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    Well according to @gilly from philly not only he should have gotten beating but throw him in a jail lol.
     
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    Can a plane go off the rails????
     
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    Nope. Only a crazy train can.
     
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    Funny Jimmy Kimmel commercial
     
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    I don't know, but this thread is well on its way. :p
     
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    David Dao, a Kentucky physician who touched off a national debate over airline overbooking policies this week when he was dragged off a United Airlines flight, was still recovering in the hospital Tuesday after suffering injuries from the incident, according to a Kentucky television station that spoke to him.

    Dao told WLKY-TV that he was not doing well and that he was still in a hospital in Chicago. When asked what his injuries were, he said "everything," the station reported.
     
  7. alanleroy

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    So...you're saying United did not have a legal right to remove the passenger since he had been seated and was not in violation of any behavior spelled out in Rule 21? Well that changes everything.
     
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    Just wonder why airlines are given a pass on "overbooking". Can you imagine a cruise line? You are in your cabin and before leaving the dock- sorry we overbooked and you have been randomly selected. Now get your ass off? And yes I know this isn't exactly apples to apples.
     
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  9. Drewm1972

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    Yeah sounds like UNITED really messed it up....so first couple of apologies from CEO just made him look totally stupid
    Also @gilly from philly
    I thought @gilly from philly knew what he is talking about but apparently lol.....I bettter not say. He's gonna be all mad at me again lol.
     
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    I read earlier that by law they are within their rights only if they present the carriage in writing which I read they did not do in this case. Also the contract states that they can prevent you from boarding but does not discuss after you have boarded. Are you familiar with the law in both instances? If true, they might be in some trouble. Let alone the 500 million dollar hit to market cap in the last 2 days!
     
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    IMG_0616.PNG Some one texted me this lol
     
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    The airline can claim that they presented the carriage contract in writing when the ticket was purchased (because we all have the right to review their terms and policies prior to completing the purchase). The issue of whether a passenger can be removed after being seated is more problematic. The regs I reviewed a few years ago didn't address that issue and, honestly, I wasn't researching that (never imagined that scenario taking place). I know the law permits the removal of a seated passenger in some circumstances (e.g., being unruly). But even if the regs permit removal of a seated passenger in this scenario, the passenger may still have a claim for breach of contract, depending on precisely what the carriage contract says.

    I saw the news today about the impact on the company's stock price. Its not a stock or company I follow, but the news I read reported that the big decline in the stock was primarily because this news might damage the company's expansion in China (!?!). Apparently, that is the new big market for this company and its been a big story in China as well
     
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    Man, when a physician says 'everything' is injured, you know it's going to be expensive.
     
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    Thanks for the reply. Yes airlines in China will be big news in the coming years. China is getting into the airline business themselves if you haven't heard. The gov't run company is called Avic along with developing their own engines.
     
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    So, there is one website who's article is labeled as an opinion, states United was wrong and that makes it a fact? Regardless of the hundreds of other actual news websites that explain WHY United was legaly permitted to deny boarding to the passenger?

    I guess when you really want to believe something........

    Interstingly I just talked to my sister about this incident. She is a first officer for a major airline, not United. She told me that she would have had real safety issues if she was the pilot on that flight. If the man refused to follow flight crew instructions while on the ground, how would he react if given instructions in an emergency?

    But I will let the experts like @Drewm1972 state what people are entilited to, and dish out insults to anyone who disagrees with them. I am sure that he/she has some knowledge about airline boarding procedures besides what they read on Facebook over the last couple of days to be able to insult anyone who disagrees with them, right? Because people who can't back up their arguments with facts, but resort to insults are usually right....LOL
     
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    I see this whole too-doo (media and social media circus and all) as a coming-to-a-head of all the frustrations that airline passengers have with the airlines, particularly Untied.
     
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    Agreed. Hopefully this will be one of those watershed moments that will result in some meaningful changes for consumers.

    :peace: :beer:
     
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    According to publicly available state licensing records reviewed by the Los Angeles Times, Dao has a history of mental health problems, including depression, anxiety and post-traumatic stress disorder, for which he has received treatment. A 2011 psychological evaluation of Dao concluded that he "lacked the foundation to navigate difficult situations, both inter-personally and in a complex profession."

    That evaluation also said Dao has struggled with "poor decision-making" and a "lack of awareness around his personality and relational issues." The records said Dao had been previously cited by a hospital in the 2000s for "disruptive conduct" and was ordered to seek evaluation for "anger management" issues. In 2002, another doctor wrote that Dao sometimes "unilaterally chose to do his own thing."

    But another psychological evaluation administered in 2013 concluded that Dao "emotionally was free of debilitating anxiety, depression, or psychological turmoil to the extent that it would affect his ability to function in activities of daily living or manage the practice of medicine."
     
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    Please show me where I said the beating was justified. Or have you not mastered reading yet?
     
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    Um it was just 3 to 4 websites talked and posted about; I think yahoo, aol, CNN, Fox News I may be wrong regards to numbers so, you saying what we/people are talking about are opinion rather than fact?
    And you saying there are hundreds of websites saying United was right?? Lol okay can you give me some list? Hundreds ??? Wow okay so please list them here... I will wait for them. And your sister comparing emergency situations vs this particular situations is totally wrong!?! How can you compare those two..

    Are you saying people who gives out their input or news that we getting our news/source from Facebook? Wow, man I think you are the one doing insults on all the people here.
     
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