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Bankroll Size vs. Bet Size

Discussion in 'Casino Gaming' started by pedrofan02, Feb 19, 2024.

  1. pedrofan02

    pedrofan02 Tourist

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    Looking for advice and also generally curious about people’s opinions on what your bankroll size should be relative to your bet size, either slots or table games. Is it a multiple of bet size?
     
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  2. weas

    weas Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Vegas Deals

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    My bankroll size has nothing to do with the size of my bet. But my age does. This month I did my last Vegas trip in my 70's. Not knowing if it could be my last. Play lots of $1.00 slots and max bets on penny slot. Came home with almost all I took. Found out I can still do Vegas (had knee replacement In May 2023) Got my first trip in my 80's planned for August. Going to catch Rod Stewart at Ceasers(bucket list item). Also have family trip planned for first week of March Madness in Biloxi.
     
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  3. Guy_

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    This is hard for anyone to answer but I will give you what I have always used for slots.

    If you plan to do slots the your bet size should be 1% of your bankroll for every 2 hours worth of play.
    so if you plan to bet $3 per spin you would need $300 to last an average 2 hour period
    If you plan to gamble more then 2 hours in the day you would need to adjust accordingly


    Couple things to keep in mind:
    * Variance is a thing and depending on the slot machine you pick you can but out WAY BEFORE 2 hours or last way longer.
    * time is based on a normal pace of play that includes moving around a few times, and never button mashing to speed things up
    * I would never take just $300 because the risk of ruin on slots is too high and you could be done in 10 min if you get unlucky
     
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  4. Travel Fanatic

    Travel Fanatic The Arbiter of Taste Caviar Kid

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    For tables, at times I use a negative progressive betting structure, so I need a large bankroll for those moments. But generally speaking, I buy in at the table for at least twenty times my base unit. I wouldn't even sit at a table with less than that. My bankroll, though, is much larger than I will ever need (because I don't dare play to its actual limit) but on any given trip I try not to go more than sixty times my base bet.
     
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  5. ParksideJason

    ParksideJason Parlay Hardways

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    My trip bankroll is 4x session budget. Session budget is 15x starting bet. I really need to make that 30-40x. I feel that my starting bet is too large and can rarely last for 2+ hours before the session budget is depleted.
    FYI, I only play craps.
     
  6. Cat_Bird_Seat

    Cat_Bird_Seat Low-Roller

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    I set aside $x,xxx per day when I gamble.
    It doesn’t matter what I’m playing & my bet amount varies widely…one machine might be $2 VP another is $5 bets on a penny slot.
    Or might play $25/hand BJ.
    If my bankroll stays flush because I’m winning, I’ll increase denoms…I pocket wins at $400 & up.
     
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  7. calwatch

    calwatch Low-Roller

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    The traditional rule for video poker sessions is 1000 times denomination, so $1000 if you are playing dollars. This is a good rule of thumb when playing single line, although you should probably go one increment when playing multi play, so $2k for 3 play, $3k for 5 play, and $4k for ten play, or use 200 times a bet as a guideline.
     
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  8. Raven888

    Raven888 Watanabe wannabe

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    I play table games and my current bankroll for a trip is usually 40-50 times my average bet. Buy-in per session is usually 15-30 times my average bet.
     
  9. Jsmile898

    Jsmile898 Addition By Subtraction and Better Off

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    Ditto.
     
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  10. Chuck2009x

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    Do you actually get felted, or are you hitting a psych pain point and stopping?

    Other thing I'd say about craps vs. say BJ or bacc, is that for a "$10 player" if they play pass and two come bets, they should consider their base unit $30, not $10. I used to play $10 tables, pass and two come bets, no odds, I wanted to play 3 - 4 hours and I never bought in for less than $1,000. And a lot of times it was $2,000. I just never liked hitting that 50% drawdown point. Bigger buy-in helped ride out the swings better, it shouldn't but it did.

    For slots I use about 1% of average daily bankroll as a per spin max.
     
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  11. Jack O. Better

    Jack O. Better Boring Math Killjoy

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    These two posts represent my personal bankroll approach pretty accurately.
     
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  12. hail2skins

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    Assuming you are betting the table min, I think your buy in for a given session should be 40× the table min,.

    Witnessed a dude buy into a $50 craps table the other night for $200. Lasted five minutes.
     
  13. moongoa

    moongoa You got to want it!

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    I also do the per day method. Regardless, what game I’m playing or how much I’m betting. I have a set amount of bankroll that I use per day and that’s
     
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  14. fudgewapner

    fudgewapner High-Roller

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    For slots and vp, I like to play at higher denims for less time. I bring maybe $2,500 on a trip, and will mix in $1 or $2 single line TDB poker and some $10 a spin slots. of course I don't set the whole bankroll for this, but I enjoy taking shots, so less of a grind, more of a chance for a big hit.
     
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  15. Electroguy563

    Electroguy563 Vegas Joker

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    I play craps so my session bankroll is 10X whatever my bets on the table are. So if it's a $10 table and I like to go minimum passline with double odds plus $54 or $52 across then I would walk up to that table with minimum $800 but I usually just buy in for $1000.
     
  16. ParksideJason

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    I don't play the line nor the come. Only place and buys. Unless it's on a 10x odds table, then I'll do a combination of both.
    I usually don't play until I get bled dry. I used to follow the playbook in football. 3 and out. If I don't get any productive rolls 3 shooters in a row, then I'm gone. Kept the exposure low. But I've been running into a lot of cold tables in the past couple of years so now I'd stay a bit longer, about 7-8 non-productive shooters, which exposes me to no more than 50% of my session bankroll.
     
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  17. ParksideJason

    ParksideJason Parlay Hardways

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    I would second this. Bigger buy-in sometimes would allow you to participate in a "turnaround". I'd check in with 5 but would typically let it bleed down to 2, although I'm only willing to lose about 2500. But sometimes, you just need to dip into the reserves to see one last shooter and sometimes, that one shooter can bring you all the way back, or partially back so you can leave with a good feeling. I try not to lose all 5 because that just puts me in a bad mood for hours and makes me play scared in the next session...
    If this is my last session for the trip, I'd work all come-out rolls. It's served me well in the past...
     
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  18. Raven888

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    This is a good conservative buy-in amount and should last someone for hours of play.

    I've been good with a 20-30x buy-in at Baccarat, because I take a lot of free hands so I'm only playing 50-60% of the time.

    Pai Gow is even better; I've played for hours with a 12-15x buy-in because there are so many pushes.

    Roulette I usually only buy in for maybe 20x, because I don't often play it for that long.
     
  19. nostresshere

    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    Just a side note.

    Even if you are playing a game with ZERO casino odds, they will usually win because of bankroll issues.

    risk of ruin can impact anyone. The casino never runs out of bankroll. Players do.
     
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  20. Jack O. Better

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    If they do, be careful not to take the room with the tall four-poster bed…