Night Club popularity waning?

Seems like you don't here as much enthusiasm about the high dollar bottle service type clubs lately. Anybody else have thoughts on that? I know it's not Vegas but we were just at the Beau Rivage on the Gulf Coast and they closed their club and now the popular place is the 875 Bar w/ a live band.

 

Those places are the mating territory of the 2wentyboppers. As long as they have $$$$$, the places will stay open, at least in LV. When the economy tightens, that's one industry that will surely get hit.

 

this is an 'industry' that was born in the recession, so I have to disagree. however, I do think that the 'industry' will decline or at least shift due to changing interests, as club-goers keep spending more time on their phone rather than actual interaction. this behavior will have a strong affect on what's next.

 

I remember this "industry" being quite active before the Great Recession and riding it out. Remember that the mating instinct does not wane during hard economic times.

 

Good point DMR.... being older, I tend to view the clubs as an entertainment venue but I forget that the driving force is a “friend” for the night .... at least for the guys. I do think some of the girls just go to have fun, get a buzz and dance i.e; be entertained. Age old scenario; women love to dance and guys dance because the women want them to...

 

Chok'Lit Shoppe...

Hakkasan...

6 of 1, half dozen of another.





I just hope when the next big thing comes along, gambling isn't a tertiary money grab. I liked Vegas a little better when gaming was more of a primary focus.

 

of course there were nightclubs pre 08/09 (i went to a few sadly), but the true EDM boom began in the recession.

 

So is the younger set still all hot for EDM or is there some new generation of music emerging? Seems like each generation has their music "thing".

 

I am not the person to ask. im ashamed to admit that I am at the ceiling of the millenial generation, but fortunately I am out of touch with the musical preferences.
Overall though I support the clubs in the casinos. more revenue, and more importantly more eye candy/people watching before I go to bed and when I wake up, especially the early AM walks of shame on the boulevard of broken stilettos.

 

I have seen posts about the impending end of the EDM nightclub scene before, but I see no signs of it in Vegas. The clubs sometimes have the majority of top 10 DJ’s in town, sign long term residence contracts and the prices for the ‘in’ clubs are not coming down. There is always turnover, as some promoters and clubs just can’t connect with the customers. Two years ago the club at Aria switched, but ever since Hakkasan is running it, things seem busy. The same at Bellagio, but try to get into Omnia, XS, Intrigue or Hakkasan at MGM and watch the thousands shelling out top dollar every weekend.

 

Let's see here ...

Celebrity Deejay

Freezer Burn
Small Crowd
Forest Lawn
Pretty Ugly
Inside Out
Jumbo Shrimp

**MEOW!**

 

We'd like to go to a nightclub at some point, have yet to do that.

 

I think that it will lose steam eventually. These EDM artists were something I enjoyed about 5-10 years ago when this all started to get big. You aren't finding them topping the charts anymore, the dark hip hop/rap is back at the top it seems (the songs that all sound the same with the deep bass and singers using the monotone voices).

I also have seen fewer of the promoters on the streets. I bet the day clubs still do well, and the big names do well on the weekends but I wouldnt be surprised to see several of them close up shop in the next 5 years or so. Not all - but several, like the club at Mandalay and Mirage, maybe some of the extra clubs at Wynn except XS. I would expect that XS, Hakkasan, Omnia, and probably Marquee at Cosmo to stay open

 

I think they encourage the club era so you have less people who will complain about the resort fee. It’s only money honey.

 

EDM is hotternell right now. See EDC in Vegas and the crowds they get, and this fact makes more sense.

That said, the clubs are a different thing.

The "festivals" - EDC, Electric Forest Festival, and dozens other across the country live by one mantra: "Come one, come all", It's much more of a "unity" vibe, and absent dress codes, although the dress is elevated to some pretty high and crazy standards. Some might "club qualify" in terms of dress codes in Vegas, many would not (see my avatar, as an example - that comes from a popular artist who caters to jam and electro music). That kind of "art" isn't "club acceptable". Nor are my shoes, which are basically "prescription" in nature - can't spend more than an hour on my feet without them.

Now there is a "VIP" scene popular at these fests too - high priced luxury arrangements like glamping (luxury camping), catered meals, viewing areas, etc. These are the type of people who will look for the tables at Las Vegas clubs.

Not only is EDM hot, it's taking over for some logical reasons, too. Much of it has to do with how the young get into producing music, and to some extent, economic conditions. In the '60's, you had hordes of young bands playing in basements across two sides of the pond - benefiting from expanding post-war economies that allowed groups of youth to buy the equipment, spend time together for hours and days on end, working to make their band the next big thing.

Today, getting five guys in a room for 40 hours a week to jam is a tougher proposition. they don't have the money for the gear, they don't have as much time. If time, no money, and often if money, no time. But it's much easier for a frustrated young male who was told that he would never amount to anything - who could, for a relative few dollars, put together a kit that would allow him to digitally produce his own mixes and tracks. 10 years later, dude is playing in front of six figure crowds at Glastonbury, UK. For the record, the artist in question is Deadmau5 (pronounced "deadmouse"). There are hundreds out there like him, who did it the same way. These guys can load up a kit in an SUV, set up a rig in a club, bar, or festival camp, and try to lure in his crowd. If he succeeds and keeps doing it, he's making $$$ in no time, because it's just HIM. One guy, low overhead, in control of his product. If you have the ability, it's easier to turn it into a paying gig.

And it's easier for fests too. They can load up a bill with DJs on the relative cheap, because they won't command as much as a five member band would. A DJ is really happy with a 50K payday, the five member touring band won't get as much as individuals. So it's good in the business sense for DJs as well as fest and club bookers alike. This makes EDM EXTREMELY profitable.

With the clubs, you're taking a high end segment of that market and intimizing the experience. Think "private gigs" that big name artists do like Elton John, who might make 1Mil playing some star's wedding. But with EDM artists, they can do similar with the highest paying customers in the scene and get them to pony up 10K for a table. Sold to a market with minimal responsibilities and flush with cash. If they pay it, the clubs will repeat and raise the prices if they can get away with it, and the DJs can make much bigger money playing controlled venues curated for their shows.

No sign of letup in the biz to what I can see - those new 7% fees added to all club bills isn't something a business does when it's losing heads through the door. It's no different than resort fees: if booking levels allow for making customers pay those prices, they will charge it as long as people pay it. So at least at current, and especially with a recently warmer economy, no signs of letting up.

One other point that's very much worth noting: LA will have sufficient population and $$$ to feed these places on their own, for the most part. Much of their business comes from SoCal people doing weekends, and that town always has money, so at least that steady stream will be there, so long as the genre is popular. No sign of that changing, either.

 

OK, I'll ask.....what heck does EDM stand for?

 

I appreciate the informative post above... a nice change from bad-backs (me), hip-replacements, CPAP machines and when to take one's social security!

 

Electronic Dance Music

 

Waning? Yes. There's no doubt that we are past the peak of EDM and big name DJs in terms of popularity - and popularity is what matters when you are trying to fill up as many mega clubs as possible at sky high prices.

Still very popular? Yes.

All of the big clubs closing soon and being replaced by lounges with big bands playing Rat Pack music and tuxedoed waiters handing out gimlets? No.

If Vegas clubs were securitized in a stock, its rating would be either BUY or HOLD. Nowhere near SELL yet.

 

Oh, the new name for a disco.

Thanks.