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Slots Hand pay, “spinning it off” afterward

Discussion in 'Slots' started by philculp, Jan 27, 2018.

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  1. philculp

    philculp Low-Roller

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    I’ve gotten a few handpays at my local casino over the past year. Every time I hit the attendant shows up does their thing with their card but before they leave they tell me I have to spin one more time. I did it without thinking the first few times but my most recent one I asked if they make everyone do that even in high limit room, they said yes absolutely. I started thinking that I would be upset if me and a buddy decided to throw 1000 into a $50-100 WOF got a spin and it just hit 1200 and HAD to spin again. Yes, I’d still be up money but it seems like they’re forcing you to gamble again even if you don’t want to. Is this just a local thing (Indiana) or do they make you do that at other places. Why do they make you spin again while they watch? The slot videos I’ve seen online from Vegas I’ve never seen that.
     
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    At my local indian casino the attendant will come back after you leave and spin the game once. My assumption is that they don't want people to avoid playing the machine if they see the last person hit a hand pay. I wouldn't think they could force you to spin again. Maybe they just say that so they don't have to come around and do it themselves.
     
  3. Rush

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    That is exactly why they do it, and no.....they can't make you re-spin.
     
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    DaiLun R.C., L.C., and A.A.N.G.

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    That used to be the norm. You'd have to "play it off". However, on my last handpays, they have not enforced it. I don't know if it's a state regulation, a casino regulation, or what not.

    This, BTW, was in Las Vegas, Lake Tahoe and Reno where I was not asked to "play it off, but was reminded that I still had credits in the machine.
     
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  5. bubbakitty

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    I am pretty sure they knew I would play it off. Where else was I going?
     
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    I remember being introduced to this concept in another thread. It seems unfair to the player to say "you are required to place another negative expectation wager for us to pay you the winnings to which you are legally entitled". But at the same time, I totally understand the casino's reason for requiring this, since there is a possibility that one could attempt to re-claim the winnings (e.g. drew a royal flush on VP, took your handpay, didn't play it off, just waited around for 20 minutes, then called over another attendant saying "oh look I hit a royal!").

    To the best of my knowledge from the research I've conducted afterward, this is common practice virtually everywhere. I don't know that there is any "official" rule that requires this, whether legally, or just internally at the casino. Furthermore, I don't suspect that it will be met with any resistance from most players as for one thing, they've just won, so they're likely in a good enough mood to not question things - and for another, it's just one bet. What's a $0.75 spin on a quarters machine if you've just won $1,500?

    I'm not generally a machines player - but if this was ever to happen to me, I would as a matter of principle just ask to have my winnings, saying I'm not interested in playing anymore. If pushed back on, I'll tell them that this "requirement" is their problem, not mine.

    But then again, who knows? That extra play they make you do could turn out to be like what happened to that guy in Australia who won the lottery twice by accident... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/354600.stm
     
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    What's a hand pay? :cry:
     
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  8. KingBBInLV

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    They can't force you to spin/play again after a handpay. They ask you to do it because the thinking is that if another person sees the last payout was a jackpot them a lot of people would walk by the machine and not play it cause "it already paid out".

    My first handpay was 21 years ago at Ballys A.C. on a 3 coin 25 cent machine. I hit $2500 on a RWB 7's machine. They paid me out $2501 and said the extra $1 was to clear the machine.
     
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    I think it was at the El Cortez when I hit my first hand pay, which was actually less than $100 at the time. She asked me to spin it off and handed me a quarter. I asked about it and she said that they did not want somebody else to just walk up, push the button for service, and claim they got the jackpot.
     
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  10. Druck

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    They've asked me if I want to do 1 more spin. Not required.

    After one $2000 winner, at an Indiana local, on a $100 machine I said, heck yea!!!! Put another hundo in and bamm! $3000 winner!!!!!

    Attendant said that she'd never seen a back-to-back winner before. I did one more losing spin and left.
     
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    One time I hit for $2000 on my last possible hand. I had no more credits and no cash in my wallet. When asked to spin it off, I told them I couldn't. The attendant got on her radio and was told to shut the machine down.

    They can't force you to place another bet.
     
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    They told me spinning it off was lucky. Your machine might just be heating up. I don't think they'd lie about something like that.
     
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    They ask, they don't force. I cant see any gaming regulation allowing a casino operator to force you to make a bet. It is unethical and I assume illegal. I have had handpays and I have been asked every single time to "play off" my win. Most of the times I'm not betting a ton. Once was $3.00 on a $1 machine. Another time it was $10 on a $5 machine. I just did it since I was happy and didn't give a shit about 3 or 10 bucks.

    Once I was playing a 2 credit $25 machine and I said "Nah, I'm good". I only had enough for a 1 credit wager left, and it was a Top Dollar machine that would only allow a bonus on a 2 credit spin. I wasn't about to reach in my wallet and stick more money in there. Fuck that noise.

    She said OK, called over someone else (I was waiting on my check any way) and he put in his card, hit some test button I guess and flip the machine to a new spin on his own. He looked at me and said "Cant have someone else claiming that win was theirs!"

    So I know why they do it. I cant see it having anything to do with a "win souring people from playing it". They just don't want a con artist arguing a payout later.
     
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  14. tycoon

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    This is interesting to me. I've never heard of this practice before. I've had handpays in Ohio, Michigan, and Nevada. Never been asked for another spin. I would politely tell them to screw off.
     
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    I have had hand pays in Nevada and Indiana and have been asked to to this, but I don't remember if it was every time or at which casino (the hand pays have been too far apart, time wise).
     
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