Update on Flamingo Bird Killer

Outstanding post! Thanks for sharin' that

 

I doubt the ire as you say is merely Vegas motivated, I know certainly in my case it is far from it, two years ago we had two little rich boys pull something like this in OKC, they killed a male swan on private property. Those two were underage but served 9 months in juvi, the parents paid for replacement of two birds as well and had to do community service with the kids as well as pay for counseling for the kids, had the two been of age it would have been jail time the prosecutor said. Are all hunters ethical? Hell no, just the same as all law students are not little punks like these two, but the comparison was made to hunting an elephant, and FYI when it comes to illegally harvested elephant, rhino or other Ivory bearer estimates from Safari Club, WWE and other conservation groups, some who support hunting some who do not, the estimate is 98% is done by poachers hunting merely Ivory to satisfy mainly Asian and European markets. Far as the puppy mills business goes DO NOT get me started on those wastes of oxygen or the law enforcement who ignore it, as a conscientious breeder those POS I would do some very nasty things to if I got my hands on them.

 

I am a police officer and while I think the punishment seems about right for what was done there are a few things that really yank my chain when I am working

1. I was drunk, I didn't know what I was doing

2. Do you know who my dad is ?

3. Law students who think they know my job better that me

given that , to quote a previous poster "Fuck him " :evillaugh

 

I respect where you are coming from and your views. Thanks for sharing.

As for that elephant, however it is "harvested" and disbursed, under whatever system of control, I simply don't get it. I don't see a need for a westerner to go to Africa and put a slug in an elephant. Or a rhino or a springbok or whatever. I simply don't. And that's not some Bambi-loving, save-the-doey-eyed-ones pabulum. I get herd or population "management" -- though that often is nothing more than the result of us messing with the system in the first place -- but killing for sport?

I simply hope those so aggrieved over this instance of animal cruelty and of violating someone else's private property are fractionally as angry and diligent in trying to combat the similar malefactors and systems and abuses that are just part of day-to-day reality across America.

 

This is where the entire situation falls apart for me...


I am a hunter so killing animals for fun is ok...
I have respect for the animal so I am going to kill it nicely?


I just dont get it...dude kills a bird (granted it was private property so there should have been punishment for the damages, and there was) and gets lasered by people all over...but hunters kill animals all day and its ok because "it was for fun and they respect the animals"

I just see so much hypocrisy in this situation...



I guess the lesson is dont kill birds in Vegas...save it for your backyard and/or with a "hunting" weapon

 

Also, on the elephant thing...because you have a ton of money and can pay ($100k you say) to kill an elephant...does that make it right?

If the guy went to the owner of Flamingo and said I will give you $100k to kill this bird would this all be ok?


again...I see hypocrisy up the wazoo

 

He probably could have gotten half of that sentence for tresspassing and then destroying an inanimate object belonging to the casino with similar monetary value to the bird.

Even if you dont go into how disturbing the act is regardless of sobriety, just add in the aggregating factors of killing a protected animal and how traumatic the scene would be to people observing and i dont think the sentence is that out of control.

Its of particular importance in a place like Vegas considering its image that even here there are standards of decent behaviour.

 

Do you have a dog? If a drunk stranger jumped over your fence and bashed your dog to death with a sledge hammer for laughs I wonder how hypocritical you would think it is to be more outraged over that than what a hunter does to animals out in the wild.

 

WOW are you seriously so dense you do not see the difference in hunting for MEAT I and my family will definitely consume and this, or just trolling. My vote is for the second because outside a serious Vegan I cannot see anyone who even comes close to seeing any resemblance in the two situations. If you are Vegan, well theres no sense talking about it.

 

Hunting for victuals vs. hunting for so-called trophies.

 

Back to betting, which is why most of us are here. Does this thread see 60 posts before being shut down?

 

Well, the name-calling has started again, so 60 might be in reach but perhaps not much past. :evillaugh

 

I'm just posting to bump the posts past 60 before shutdown. Jerk move? yes. Any time I can skew the odds, I'm in.

*No birds were harmed during the writing of this post.

 

I would put it in the same category as those hunters who hunt strictly for enjoyment...

If you are going to kill my dog for enjoyment
or
If you are going to kill a deer for enjoyment

Only difference is they tresspassed on my property...assuming the deer is on "public" land


But how could anyone want to hurt this??

 

Not so much even killing for sport or food, but killing a captured animal used for display! Like going to the zoo to do your 'hunting'. Just better not fish in my fish bowl, and oh because its so easy use a rock instead of a fishing pole, just for sport.

 

Damn that looks like my little Trixie dog!!

 

Sonya, you have a bug museum? :confused2:

Who else here gets drunk and rips heads off of living creatures.... no one? I didn't think so. This guy obviously has issues. If he could do that to a defenseless animal there's no telling what he could do to another human being. He deserves every bit of what he got. Our country needs stricter punishments IMHO.

As a passionate animal lover, that's all I have to say about that.

I saw those famingos last week and I thought about this incident. Made me a little teary eyed.

How depressing not to have a countdown...I need to get working on that!

 

A local druggie did the same thing here

A couple of years ago this jerk and his friends broke into a local zoo that rehabs injured and abandoned animals. They killed a peacock or something similar.
At 18 this putz already had a long arrest record .
This law student deserves to be punished,I have no sympathy for him at all.

 

The fact that he killed it with his bare hands----ripping the head from the body--- takes it to an entirely different level than the hunter or even the kid who throws a rock at a squirrel.

Blood, feathers, flesh on his hands makes it pretty real.

Envision your dog sitting in his own yard and someone coming in, tearing off his head and tossing it on your steps. Does that make it real for you?

 

Didnt Ozzy bite the head off a bat?
Why wasnt that a big deal? Is it cause bats are ugly? gross? not cute? not pets?

Exterminators poison rodents and insects on a daily basis...
Why isnt that a point of concern?