MyVegas Days Of Double XP Are Bye-Bye

If I was MGM management looking at MyVegas, I wouldn't care if it lost money as its a marketer's dream. You get the MGM brand in front of 2 million people. I don't know how many people log in and play on a daily basis but let's say its 1 million. You get all of your hotel properties in front of 1 million people on a DAILY basis. You can't buy that kind of publicity in this day and age.

The hard costs to MGM for almost all of the rewards is very minor. So to management: LOW COST + HIGH AD EXPOSURE + REVENUE FROM CHIP PURCHASES = SMASHING SUCCESS.

Again if I was overseeing MyVegas and I could make decisions, I be pushing for MORE free rooms, not less. In general, if people stay at your property they will eat, drink, and gamble there. Not always, but most of the time. Plus they are still paying a resort fee which basically offsets MGM's actual costs for a room per night. And if they like it, they will come back.

 

Yes, but they also really want people to gamble at their casino. Not just have a place to crash and get free buffets....Just sayin'.....

 

Of course. But I would be that most people gamble more/eat more/drink more at their home base than elsewhere. Certainly not everyone but I'd say a vast majority. So giving them a free room (not really free since the resort fee covers their costs typically) is a smart business move. The exception would be if a hotel was consistently at capacity and could sell that room to someone else. But most places in Vegas rarely operate at capacity.

 

da1chifan - Agreed!! Every time they have one of those Q&As, you can count on non-answers. And when someone calls "bull", the group moderators chime in with their, "we thank you for doing a great job", "oh I love the game I will always be loyal and play", "I play all the quests and love it", "thank you, we love you are here talking to us". Oh please, I want to barf.

 

+100000000000

I can't stand all the ass kissing that occurs in the Facebook groups.

 

This is me. I was never interested in staying at MaBay, but this past June I dined and gamed a good portion of my budget there. So yeah, I got the free rooms, but I've also poured funds into the property too. I think I'm on a good start with points, so we will see what that brings me.

 

I think we often forget when discussing MyVegas on this forum is that all of us are actually interested in and have gone to Vegas and plan on returning. A <b>large</b> portion of those playing MyVegas have never been to Vegas and never will. While I'm not privy to what percentage of players playing the game fit into this category, it appears it might be higher than one would expect. There are tons of free games on Facebook, including many other casino themed ones that provide no actual rewards, that are successful. So while it might seem on the surface that PlayStudios is very successful, they clearly have much higher operating costs than the typical free game. Therefore, I tend to believe that da1chifan's assessment of their long term survival is spot on.

 

Those are very good points. Anyone know the details of the PlayStudios and MGM arrangement? Does PlayStudios get all of the revenue from chip purchases? Do they pay for the rewards? In my mind, MGM would be fronting a lot of the rewards and money but maybe that's not the case.

 

I don't know, but I think you are mostly correct. There might be a little bit of money going to the sponsors, but for the most part I'd say they front the rewards for the sake of marketing their properties. That's why the non MGM rewards are almost all BOGO.

As for double XP and double LP being gone, I'm not terribly surprised. When it was a bonus it was fine, but once players started hoarding and only playing on those times, it wasn't worth it. Cuts chip purchases, plus it must be a pain for server load (high peak times and low volume the rest)

When it comes to rewards, I would not write off anything for the future (2 night stays, suites). I think they could be seen again when bookings cool down.

 

Their slots are tight. Very tight. You have 2 options, you either hoard and wait for the right time to play or you buy chips. Most of us hoard and wait. Now that double XP is gone and possibly double LP we'll still be waiting, it's just that we'll be waiting until we've accumulated enough chips to give us a chance to actually complete their challenges. Unless you're buying chips on a regular basis there is no way you would be able to consistently play.

Because the slots are so tight I'd never spend a dime on this game. I'll continue to accumulate and blow them all in night like I currently do until my upcoming trip. I doubt i'll play very often after my return.

With all of that said, it's still a free game that gives you free stuff. That's pretty hard to beat these days. No one could realistically believe that they'd continue to give you free hotel rooms and meals forever. Heck if you combined your offers with a friends you could easily get a near free 2 or 3 day vacation from them. I'm sure that there will still be people playing and putting in a ton of hours no matter how small the rewards are. There are people who spend hours cutting coupons and deal hunting everyday. It's all about your tolerance to save a few bucks.

 

MyVegas changed Vegas for me. I went from coming once every other year to this September being my fourth trip in 12 months. Hooked. I went from three day trips that wore me out to five or six day trips that actually felt like a relaxing vacation via free rooms. Including the two aria nights I have in September that will bring my total comped mv nights to four at aria and three at MC. And they've always been tacked on to the end of three night stays, I don't like hotel hopping. And I gamble and eat where I stay for the most part. And the $3000 each trip. Most of which seems to not come home . So I guess what I am saying is that despite never buying chips, MGM is def getting their money out of my playing the game. Play studios, not so much I suppose. I'm down to about 40k LP. I'll prolly use them in the winter or spring for a night at MGM or something. Who knows.

 

I don't really see what the big deal is - she specifically stated that they will still be doing Double LP on Level Up days - that is much more valuable than double XP anyways.....

 

Resort fees are waived on a comped room, even from MyVEGAS. At least this is the case for the majority of people from what I've read.

 

This is true....I guess we will just have to see what happens with the game. I will continue to play of course!

 

The resort fees were comped more in the early days. This year I had rewards from Mirage and Aria, and neither resort fees were waived.

 

I'm confused how double LP could be more valuable, let alone "much more valuable" than double XP?

Considering you get through the levels twice as fast with double XP, shouldn't the double XP be exactly the same value as double LP?

 

Once you get to the higher levels, it takes millions and millions of XP to level up. I think like maybe once you hit level 500 is when the amount of XP required to level up each time is ridiculous.

Playing Double XP was just a way to get people to those higher levels quicker where it takes many many many more spins to level up.

Double LP on the other hand, does not accelerate your XP growth, yet you still get the benefit of 2x the amount of gold. So it is much more valuable in the long run to play double LP and not XP.

This is just for people who play optimally and want to be as efficient as possible earning LPs. Most MyVegas players are cray cray and don't care about it.

 

This is a key point, I think. The target audience for MyVegas seems to have become first-timers. It's a hook to get people excited about Vegas and entice them to come visit. So you're seeing a lot of rewards that get people out doing things that Vegas veterans have done and perhaps aren't interested in anymore. In a sense, the game is moving away from this notion that you're getting "real comps" and getting a Vegas orientation. They're making the same type of move with the properties outside Vegas, with so many rewards featured for Gold Strike and Beau Rivage. Get people curious and in the door. Increase spend. Up revenue.

That said, I'd really like to see some more enticements for the veterans. What if you made available MLife "moments" on the MyVegas board -- allow platinum or gold or pearl players to unlock certain rewards. Get a behind-the-scenes Aria or Bellagio tour for a millions LPs. Things like that. We're going to keep coming back, but do something that would be fun for us.

 

Also you forgot to mention, 2X LP on level up also works with blackjack (and "free bet blackjack" when it gets added later this month hopefully).

 

Hi - is there a place to view the recent chat? Was it recorded? And how do we know when it's happening? Is it a regularly scheduled event?

I guess they know what the final cost vs benefit numbers are, but I think they're being very short sighted. Example:

I was about to buy a one free night at Aria reward, and book two paid nights. Had it all picked out. Like an idiot I didn't factor in it going away (which it did). So now instead I'm staying at the Wynn. We like the vibe there, and without the free night at Aria the offer is much better. Removing that Aria reward cost them $500+ in room money and who knows how much food and gambling money.

Too bad. I'm already playing less, and will be in LV less. I'm sure they're not making much on a certain percentage of the MyVegas players, but I also guarantee that many players are staying with them instead of a TR property.