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How long do offers stay at current level with no play or visits?

Discussion in 'Comps' started by Savethebosco, May 2, 2024.

  1. Savethebosco

    Savethebosco Tourist

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    Had a 4 day trip in mid April. I had a ton of play all high limit slots. Yesterday my offers came in and they are well above what I normally get.

    Bad timing as I have a kid on the way in July so likely won't get out to Vegas again till fall of '25

    Will I keep getting solid offers or will they dry up? I guess another option is to book fall '25 as soon as the booking window opens in fall of '24?
     
  2. killswamper23

    killswamper23 High-Roller

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    Definitely book the offer for the dates you want as soon as you can.

    There really is no hard or fast rule. Sometimes they get better, sometimes they get worse and sometimes they stay the same. Different properties have different ways of doing things. It might go up bc the algorithm thinks it didn't do enough to lure you back. It might go down bc business picks up even more in Vegas so they pull back on comps.
     
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  3. Mr Bulldops

    Mr Bulldops VIP Whale

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    Some tend to have longer memories than others. Which casino is this?
     
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  4. Chuck2009x

    Chuck2009x VIP Whale

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    If it's MGM, my guess is they'll stay about the same long enough to get you to the point where fall of 2025 is bookable.
     
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  5. ReTriggerMe

    ReTriggerMe Stand Up to Jewish Hate!

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    There's no certain answer.

    I'm still getting MGM offers. Haven't wagered a nickel there since October 2022. The freeplay and resort credit offers fluctuate minimally... never significant changes; I no longer bother checking room types. My offers barely changed there when I went from $1000 coin-in per day to $10,000 coin-in. I was offered better rooms, but that was also 2020-2021 post pandemic.

    I'm still getting Cosmo offers, it's been 7-8 months. They've diminished a little. Expect that to soon be irrelevant.
     
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  6. silverjake

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    I was just wondering the same thing.

    My last trip was February 2019, stayed at The Wynn and Aria.

    The Wynn sent me offers on regular basis till mid 2022, then it was radio silence. Then end of 2023 I started getting phone calls and email offers again of 3 nights, $250 resort credit and show tickets, but noting in the last 3 months.

    Up until a month ago MGM was offering 4 comped nights, now nothing.

    After breaking my hip and a long recovery I'm looking forward to planning a trip. Hopefully my Wynn and MGM offers come back, but its been a long tie since my last visit.
     
  7. JulianC

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    This is an excellent data point about MGM. Combined with a very recent observation with my own offers, it seems that MGM has a cutoff of 5 years.

    Actually, it's more like 5 years plus a month plus a few days. From my observations, it looks like the current monthly offers that arrived on 1 May 2024 take into consideration all play from 25 March 2019 through 25 March 2024. The numbers would have been run sometime in April to post the offers at the very beginning of May.

    This would relate to the topic of this thread because if MGM is looking at the past 5 years, it would make sense that someone whose last MGM play in Vegas was in February 2019 would have April 2024 be the last month in which an offer was sent.

    Now I'd like to see everyone run to the monthly "How did my MGM offers change this month?" threads and apply this theory to the various responses.
     
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  8. Chuck2009x

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    @JulianC may be correct with his 5 years theory for MGM, but MGM has also been glitching like crazy for the last 3 weeks (one symptom is no offers showing) and I believe they also had (or have) a problem with Canadian members' offers disappearing.

    So if you've only checked once, it could be the glitch. If you've checked more than once over several days, it could be the Canadian problem or some other problem or you might indeed have been cutoff due to inactivity.
     
  9. silverjake

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    A week later and my offers didn't come back, so its safe to say 5 years is the cut off.
     
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  10. Chasinghandies

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    In regards to The D and Circa, it was three years and the offers disappeared. However, all I had to do was email Circa, they reviewed my play, and reinstated the offers that disappeared.
     
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  11. ssjmorales

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    August 2018 my last MGM stay, Oct 2023 was my last offer. For another DP at ~5 years.
     
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  12. MCann

    MCann I can't complain, but sometimes I still do...

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    Hrm, I've had maybe a bit different experience with MGM offers, insofar as they have changed drastically after just one or two lower play trips (due to large losses) and most recently, after a higher play trip. For most of the past 5 years, I had almost exactly a $6250 daily average on slots, consistent over 5 to 7 stays per year. After just 2 trips last year where the hold monster got me and my daily coin went to 3 to 5k, my offers basically halved. Then after my most recent stay Christmas of last year, where I averaged about $12,500 per day, my offers doubled the next cycle, and suites that had disappeared for 6 months, opened back up and then some.

    I'm sure that long term average is factored in there somewhere, but more recent would have to be weighted more heavily in the algorithm to explain the behavior in my offers, if they are indeed looking back 5 years. And I'm coming up now on the 5 year anniversary of a few trips of drop in play below $500 per day when I first got a card there, so I'd expect my offers to go way up with no change in play if that is the case, because those are the only low play days I've ever had with MGM. In terms of offers just existing or not, that may be the cutoff though, but I see changes in mine more frequently and more drastic than I would if they are just averaging the last 5 years as a whole in the algorithm.

    Now, a more interesting data point is, I havent played at Wynn with my card since Christmas 2022, when I almost earned platinum from zero over a 3 night stay. My offers have gotten progressively worse every cycle since last fall, to the extent they are now down to 2 nights Sun-Thurs only, with only $50/50 in FP/RC (from a peak of 3 nights any time and 200/300 after that stay). And just a couple weeks ago, I was contacted by some sort of marketing person saying they are excited to welcome me back to Encore, and that she will be my contact and take care of me from now on. She also tried to call my cell phone a couple times and gave me all her phone numbers. That all seems very unusual to me. We have to consider the Vegas economy du jour though. During my short hiatus from Vegas so far, I've also been assigned a Caesars host which I never had before, and my play there really hadn't increased over pre-pandemic, or at least not significantly.
     
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  13. Chuck2009x

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    I was gonna say I don't think the algo look-back period is 5 years, but the cut off period might be.

    But then that makes no sense, because if you're still getting the same offer after 4 1/2 years, what are they looking at, lol.

    In any case, my experience is similar to @MCann 's in that it feels like your most recent trip gets weighted more heavily.

    I had very flattish play for the last several years until this spring where I had one stay where my theo was 2x my normal. And my FP almost doubled in the next offer that included that stay. That one stay probably only increased my 2 year average by 20% and my 5 year average by 10%
     
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