Table Games Craps buy-in with alot of cash

I'm with you on the odds/luck, absolutely. But I do think the etiquette part, just avoiding holding up the game, is important to me. It's like the people who wait in line at Starbucks to even start thinking about what they want to order; yeah, they have the right to do it, but it still bugs other people and it's easy to avoid.

EDIT: Chuck beat me to it!

 

Well that's why I give the general caveat that of being on top of your action and not monopolizing the dealer's time. Some guy with an elaborate series of bets that he goes through on every single roll of the dice can absorb more table time than some guy buying in once mid-roll for a couple C-notes.

IMHO it's better to just say "be quick about it, whatever it is you need to" rather than get into the weeds on specific etiquette. Pretty much any transaction in the game of craps can be done either quickly or tediously slow. If the guy puts his money down when the dice are in the middle and keeps the amount simple, then it just doesn't bother me.

I'll take a mid-roll buy in done before the dice go out every day of the week over some guy that routinely doesn't decide what to bet until the dice go out causing the dealer to have to bring them back to the middle.

 

Well, if I can't blame the guy buying in mid-roll for rolling a 7, who am I going to blame???
Its certainly not my fault.

 

I wait till the roll is over unless it’s a slow game. I’ve seen full tables with complex bets take long time for the dice to go back to the roller.

 

All I can say is, ditto.

 

REALLY silly question (both as someone who doesn’t really play craps and has never played at this level)… but could it work to simply buy in at an empty table of a different game just to get the high-denom chips (2x $5,000, 10x $1,000, 20x $500) and then bring said chips to the craps table and break them down as necessary for gameplay?

I imagine this could raise suspicion and would at minimum be annoying to the dealer at the empty table who has to count out all that money for someone who isn’t even going to play. But I feel like if one was transparent about it, it might not cause quite as much friction.

 

If you buy into an empty craps table on that amount assuming cash.Then you want to walk away with those chips to another table. You will probably get questioned lol. Besides the boss and crew looking at you like wth! It’s just not done. However, if your betting huge they will work around it. Most big players aren’t buying in with huge amounts of cash. They have credit.

I’ve watched guys at the Wynn playing on 25 dollar tables betting 20k at time. They want to be seen . My wife and I were playing with a guy from probably Eastern Europe. His host was talking with him and after he left . He was betting huge along our few hundred dollar bets. Guy was hilarious . He would pull his bets if 2 or 12 came and would high five the shit out of me when we won.

 

Whether you buy in for 2k at a time or 10k one time doesn't matter on rating. It's the size of your bets during the course of your session that gets you rated.

At least that's what the boxman told me.

 

There's no specific prohibition, but they really, really don't want you doing that. It throws off their win/loss tracking, and they don't like having large chips floating around unaccounted for. Plus it's an issue for inventory purposes. It's why they always ask you to color up when you're leaving a table, no matter what level you're playing at.

 

@bugsy_seagull assuming 10k is a session buy in and not your whole bankroll, you are far better off having the money loaded as front money or establishing a line of credit. Then you can simply tell the boxman or pitboss you want a marker from your line or front money for 10k. He can do the paperwork while the game proceeds and then it's just a matter of counting out chips.

Keep in mind that dropping 10k on the table will automatically trigger a CTR. I have no idea if that does anything to the speed of the count out or if anything involving you actually transpires as I have never seen it happen.

Most was a guy buying into blackjack for 5k, all 20s, banded too. Still a pain in the rump because dealer could only do 500 at a time for the drop. Spread out 25 as 5 rows of 5 then stack, then drop. lather rinse repeat.

 

Waiting til the roll is over is best, but whatever you do, please dont interrupt the flow of the Dice. Dropping your “fat stacks” on the dice or the hands throwing them is bad juju.

 

Last craps table last trip I kind of harangued 3 guys at Circa about not buying in mid a super hot roll w. some black and purple chips action, all entirely place bet for a totally clear landing field,
I had put my card in the spot and stood back from the table for maybe 15 minutes already, waiting for point to be resolved before buying in. Always hurts, and see some very long rolls for the FOMO, but that's how I prefer to etiquette.

guy #
1) "screw it, I'm buying in anyways" (maybe $100 buyin, friends said he was drunk), screw it then, get in quickly behind him and jump on placing 6/8 and two way hards, he doesn't know how to play and when I start telling him to let the dealers frickin' pay first before he starts yelling his min bets at them he doesn't like how I keep telling him what to do (dealers were hassling him too, they prob had $200+ in two way action out there) and leaves the table. Whew, roll continues,

2) think he listens when I say "Please, take a look at the action out there and consider if you want to interrupt this roll", this maybe around when a guy announces "I'm bored", shoves a $10kish stack on the field, and a 3 rolls, he does a victory lap. btw, for color, the table has a lot of seriously blinged out, large and heavily tattooed gentlemen, I think he drifts to the other side to watch then wanders off, Whew, roll continues.

3) guy slides in, I give same speech, he says he's been hearing the table noise from across the Casino, and screw it he's going for his $150 buy in, as I plead with him to let the roll resolve, 7 out happens after maybe 40+ minutes of uninterrupted rolls, dealer payouts were taking time, big, everyone across on every #, pressing and heavy & two way in the middle, 6 & 8s all day.

(they had actually just pulled a dealer change and put some super slow acting confused dealers on which probably also broke the magical tempo, and then the boxman had started hassling all the big players, causing them to immediately leave, largely up big)

He buys in, table disperses, and he acknowledges he prob didn't want to have just bought in 1 minute earlier. Play w. him for a few minutes, hit a few points, then leave, it's prob 5am and the thrill is gone.

in my defense, I had a horrible table of players and dealers the night before, and this was a heavy action table with a great pace, where everyone was fully into the flow of getting their payoffs, pressing quickly, when it was their turn to change the bets, and the tempo of getting the dice to the shooter...

and I was a drunk, it was late my last night, and noob me would have appreciated the same warning when I started.

I digress, U do you, as long as you're having fun.

also, confirmation bias.

 

If I was going to buy in with that much cash, I think I would only do so at a table that was empty.

 

I haven't seen quite that big a spread (and those games usually have a $10k max), but I do see people playing $1k or so at the Aria main floor games, which are 3:2 but H17, versus S17 in HL. The ones I've talked to don't care at all about being seen, they just like to play at their usual level but don't like sitting alone at a table in HL; they enjoy the camaraderie of a full table on the main floor. I get that.

 

$10k is definitely an unusual amount to buy-in for cash but hopefully it only happens once per trip. I mean, I'm assuming you're not bringing like $40k in cash with you? (at that point a LOC makes so much more sense). But also when you win / walk away with any chips just keep them in chips.

When I play BJ I usually buy-in for $2k cash (bringing $10k with me), but if I win I just keep yellow chips in my safe / my pocket for the next session so I'm rarely buying in for cash often.

 

This is a fine idea, just do keep track of which tables you were playing at, because this can be akin to the whole issue of them trying to avoid letting people cash chips that you got from someone else. It shouldn't be a big issue for only a couple thousand at a higher-end casino, though.

 

I typically buy in for $5k. I try to avoid cash buy-ins because I usually have a friend or two with me and they also buy in for $5k and the whole process ends up taking 5-10 minutes. So if I have a marker, I use it. If I don't, I get a $5k chip (if available) from the cage or 5 x $1k chips to make the process quicker. Some places are slow with markers (having to call and verify etc.) so I usually just get chips from the cage to make it easier on everyone

 

I do this all the time. I either go to the cage and buy in or go to an empty table and get $1K orange chips and leave to a different table. No one bats an eye - dealer or pit boss.

Once you go sit down at another table and want them to break it down into smaller chips they'll ask to see a player's card to confirm though, or at least start to track it.

At my local, the cage won't even ask for a card unless you're buying in with more than $5,000 in cash.

 

I was of the impression that you could only buy in at a table. Perhaps things have changed.

 

Years ago at GN saw a whale come to craps table. It was morning, the table min. was $10. This guy walks to the table the crew stops play and changes min to $100. Players at the table are told we are grandfathered on the min. He has two assistants (body guards), each has one of those clear boxes full of chips like they use to replenish a dealer's bank. They meticulously sort the chips into the rail by my count 100 thousand. He had color I had never seen before. Dice are out to me he goes five large dark on my come out roll. SEVEN. He bets dark again I press ELEVEN. He bets dark doubles his bets. I roll 10 he smiles bets dark on every number I throw 2 way fiver hard ten. I roll at least 10 times all his bets come down I hit HARD TEN the crowd goes wild he curses in Japanese,(I think) his men pack up the remaining chips he bows to the dealers and to me and walks away.

So they must have loaded this guy at the cage. There was no buy-in at the table.