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Wynncore - Host Referral

Discussion in 'Comps' started by taishos, Jun 15, 2012.

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  1. Llew

    Llew Low-Roller

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    For what it's worth $150/hand x 4hrs BJ = free room at Wynn. With the extra $50/hand I suppose you could get a daily buffet as well, or maybe $50 F&B when you include the craps play (odds are not rated there).

    Basically, Wynn doesn't comp table game players well, and the Red Card (player's card) gives you nothing unless you play slots. I still play there sometimes because I like the Encore Casino, though.
     
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  2. JillyFromPhilly

    JillyFromPhilly Tourist

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    Believe me, the hosts at Wynn will turn on you in a second if you disappoint them with your level of play - personal example: despite years as a loyal player, when I had to temporarily bring my level of play down a bit during the recession, they couldn't have rolled the red carpet back up fast enough. And I'm not talking about getting downgraded back to a parlor suite from formerly having always gotten either a salon suite or 2-bedroom apartment, or no longer getting airfare reimbursements - sure, that was understandable - but the amount of attitude & the level of snottiness I got from the hosting staff after having been a loyal customer since the place opened was what ultimately drove me to now play at Aria & Palazzo - but in the end the joke is on Wynn I guess, because now my LOCs at both Aria & Palazzo are each higher than they were at Wynn before I had to temporarily cut back.
     
  3. natedog666

    natedog666 17 and 20 Expert

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    That's very short-sighted of them. I was wondering whether the other casinos treated you differently when you pulled back briefly?
     
  4. A.J. Poulson

    A.J. Poulson MIA

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    I haven't been in the Mirage in a few years but I seem to recall them having some of the nicest smelling public restrooms I've encountered.

    To address what Jilly said I think that points to a larger problem in Vegas and in cities all over the world. Just a general decline in how a guest is treated. I know its a far cry how I"m treated compared to how my grandfather was treated in his day. I feel that its probably a failure in the training of the staff although personally I've been treated well at Wynncore.

    My worst experience to date I would say was the Armani hotel in Dubai. Beyond the hotel itself being a general disappointment, the staff ranged from unhelpful to downright rude and indifferent. I also think the younger generation of guests just come to expect this and enable it by not knowing what real service should be.
     
  5. JillyFromPhilly

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    In Atlantic City, where I've had established relationships with my hosts/properties for the past two decades, treatment didn't decline in quality at all - but being that I'm more of a local & frequent visitor in AC, the whole dynamics of the player-host-property relationship and the comping is a lot different [being a long-time, local regular in AC gets you a lot more in hard comps [sporting event tickets, gifts, etc] at a much lower level than even much higher play in Vegas does.

    In Vegas, I was only playing at Wynn at the time - I had jumped to Wynn from Caesars when Wynn opened & didn't play anywhere else until my first stay at Aria earlier this year, so I don't really have anywhere else to compare for that period - though my host at Aria now is one of the hosts I had worked with at Wynn [though not my primary host] prior to both their leaving for Aria when it opened - which coincidentally coincided with when I had to start pulling back on my play, so on top of me starting to cut back on my play, I also lost the two hosts I had the best & longest-standing relationships with at Wynn - but at the time, I was still of the "Wynn is the best there is" mindset [plus the wife really liked it there] and thus unwilling to make the move at the time.

    After that, I got what I felt was shabby treatment from Wynn from the rotating cast of new hosts they kept assigning me to over the next year or two [at which I got frustrated to the point that on my last stay at Wynn, I just booked through the website & not through a host, which was the first time I'd done that in Vegas since the late 90's] So once I was ready to ramp my level of play back up I decided to finally give Aria a shot with the hosts that had always treated me well [unfortunately though, my original primary host from Wynn had since moved on to Cosmo] but once I made the decision to make the move to Aria, I contacted the other host I knew from Wynn who was still over there and was welcomed with open arms and have so far been treated very well.
     
  6. Tellafriend

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  7. Tellafriend

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    Good for you and screw them. That's why i don't go down there. They can take their dead casino and shove it up Wynn's vegan ass.
     
  8. MangoPort

    MangoPort Low-Roller

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    I don't think there's any misrepresentation when you ask for a CL or provide front money of any amount. Nor do I think there's any onus on you to gamble at the expected bankroll requirements of that level. $250/hand at $50k is 200 bets. That's very conservative but it's not misrepresenting anything just because the expectation is you'll be playing with 50 bets.

    Moreover, at any point one can simply stop gambling. You might have a $50k bankroll but lose 30 bets in a row and just get sick of gambling for that trip. The casino is taking a chance that you will bet a certain amount (a 'gamble', if you will), and as they learn more about you they will adjust their comps accordingly.

    The absolute most you can take off the casino by 'implicitly implying' a higher betting pattern [which I don't think you're doing] is a couple of hundred.

    It seems a lot better that they over-comp you rather than under-comp you, as a general rule.
     
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