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Will Vegas ever go smokeless?

Discussion in 'Misc. Vegas Chat' started by shokhead, Feb 13, 2018.

  1. Sonya

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    Once the boomers start declining in visitation, it's something that I can see a casino trying but that's a long way off. There is a customer type that is completely turned off by the smoke and there will be a time where it will be more important to get them over a smoking casino customer.
     
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    The best one can do is ask the dealer to make the table a non smoking table, every time I’ve made the request the dealer has been overjoyed to accommodate. Sometimes the dealer has to ask the pit boss who approves 95% of the time. The only time the request was denied was when there were no other open tables for that game and the pit boss didn’t want to discourage other players from joining the table. Of course if there are other players at the table they need to agree as well but most other players are like-good idea.
     
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    I am a non-smoker and I hate smoke, I have chronic allergies, but I don't bash others for smoking where smoking is allowed.

    many of the casinos still comp a pack of smokes. smokeless is a long way off. the "smoke-free" sections of casinos are almost always near empty. and they are not smoke-free anyway.

    sometimes, I will ask the pit hoss for a pack of smokes and I give them to friends back home. they think it is cool to have a pack with the Nevada seal on them.

    a good case in point to look at is bars that are smoke-free or not. I live in county where smoking is not allowed in bars. the next county over, you can smoke all you want. the bars that are just inside of the county line that allow smoking, are much busier than the bars on the other side of the county line. in fact several of those non-smoking bars near the county line have closed.

    smoking is part of the casino smell, at least for now. I do wish the bars would do a better job of ventilating, maybe take a lesson or two from the casinos.
     
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    Certainly hasn't adversley affected Ontario casinos being non-smoking.

    I think it will take some kind of class action suit from long term employees suffering from smoking related diseases. I would also guess that 2018 is different from the early 90's when it was tried. What percentage of Vegas casino goers smoke and do they make up a greater percentage of the $$ wagered?. I am not a smoker and put up with the smoke - certainly don't embrace it. I have moved around or away or out when it gets to m too much.
     
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    As a smoker - I personally go outside when I can, to smoke. When we stay at Mandalay Bay, I'll (unfortunately) still wake up early (630 ish), go get coffee at Starbucks, walk down to where the pools are and sit at those few tables just outside the door and just have a few cigarettes, drink my coffee and catch what I can of the sun coming up over all the palm trees. As simple as it sounds, one of my favorite parts of staying at MB.

    Otherwise, if we're waiting for a show to start or waiting for dinner reservations or at a night club - yeah, I unfortunately smoke on the casino floor. The wife hates smoke but it's never bothered her on the casino floor.

    If smoking was totally banned (and I was still a smoker) I probably wouldn't go to LV. The hotels are to massive to constantly have to run outside to smoke. Even at Vdara last year; you can't smoke by the pool, anywhere - and forced us to go out past valet. That got really old, really fast. Now you've made me question do I want to stay at your fancy hotel, or stay somewhere that doesn't mind smoke by the pool and I'll spend money there on lunch or drinks or whatever.

    You'll cut out still to much population if you ban smoking. And a none smoker who wants to gamble, will still gamble in a smoking casino. A smoker who wants to gamble and can't smoke, will now leave to go smoke and loosing that money to them leaving IMO is to much of a risk for the casino.
     
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  7. shokhead

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    Yes but it might not have a thing to do with the hotels, it may be a state law that gets passed one day.
     
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    yeah, it probably is more likely if the state passes a law. No one wants to be first.
     
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    Agreed and it puts them all in the same boat. Sure would save a lot of money.
     
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    To say that Rivers sucks is to compliment it! I've never ever been so disappointed with a casino as I was when I made the mistake to try Rivers! :(

    But seriously, one of the things I really noticed on my first visit to LV in the 1970s was the percentage of smokers! I was recently out of college and at the time I would say that among close friends it was about 50/50 smokers and nonsmokers. In LV I know it was 80% maybe even 90% of the casino patrons smoking, really! My late aunt explained it as "vices go with vices" and I could see the point.

    Nowadays smoking has really fallen in popularity, but I still see smoking being far more popular with casino-goers than the general public.

    One thing I've noticed at work lately is that with the "Smoking Club" when they hold their "meetings" out on the dock, it seems like it's now mostly millennial types or younger who partake in the Nasty Habit. LOL, bright pink hair, facial piercings and obvious tattoos seem to go with smoking these days for some reason.
     
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  11. Jaygee77

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    It's coming. Not anytime soon, mind you, but a generation from now, maybe two. Smoking rate has declined among young adults, compared to older generations. When that group hits their 40s/50s, and has all the money, you best believe casinos will cater to their whims (and their wallets). But that's so far off, it's a waste of time and energy to worry about it.

    As for the touchy subjects, I would have sworn "Dealer overpaid you/another player, do you speak up?" would have cracked the top three.
     
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    Im a non smoker never have even as a teen but Vegas would really lose some of its appeal to me if that ever happened, the smoke the people drinking on the strip its all part of the appeal of stuff you cant get away with at home
     
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    Yes. This is what it would probably take. That's how they got smoking out of restaurants.

    There could be a theory that if MGM and CET teamed up and banned it in all their casinos at the same time, there could be change. But that scenario seems unlikely.
     
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    OTOH, what a boost for DT.:kiss:
     
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    If they banned smoking in the workplace downtown, where would th bucksters go? If they passed a law. Designated circle?
     
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    I'm pretty sure that this was tried a long time ago by at one casino. I want to say that it was the Silver Slipper. Does anyone remember that?

    I used to smoke, but switched to vaping about four years ago. It's not one of those obnoxious setups that makes me look like a dragon. It emits a small amount of vapor that smells a bit like pancakes (I'm told). I get my nicotine fix and nobody around me seems to mind - I hope.

    The casinos here in Colorado, where I live, are all non-smoking. But each casino has several convenient, heated, outdoor areas for smokers to enjoy. Smokers never have to go far from the action. And non-smokers don't have to endure the smoke. It seem like a good solution that pleases most everyone.
     
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  17. colorfinger

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    I think the pattern of consumption will change before Nevada or the Casino industry does... I could even see a federal law banning burning take place before Nevada or the Casinos did it. Realistically, though, I think as people gravitate towards smokeless, vape, and other means of smoking, the Casinos will gradually become smoke free (at least in the traditional sense). Now if the feds eventually ban traditional smoking, then Vegas will fall into the smokeless world but short of that, it will be the last haven of the smoker in a world of vape and smokeless consumption.
     
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    I’m a non-smoker and live in a state where you cannot smoke indoors. However, I actually enjoy the lingering smoky smell in Vegas; it adds to the seedy, “lets ignore our health this weekend” attitude I have when I’m in town. Sitting next to a smoker doesn’t bother me but it isn’t my preference, either.
     
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  19. mairsil

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    I really wish everything would go smokeless. I'll hold most of my comments to myself, other than saying a smoker's right to kill themselves shouldn't outweigh a non-smoker's right to breathe. I'm glad more things are going smoke-free, but now it is the vapers that we have to deal with. Even with my local casino, smoke-free by state law, they allow vaping. That's much worse for some people and local vapers are not nearly as courteous as most Vegas smokers.
     
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    They still firmly believe "the vices" go together and until that changes...I doubt it. I feel bad for the employees. I wish it was different.
     
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