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Video Poker Why STP is like crack...

Discussion in 'Video Poker' started by thecarve, Jan 11, 2017.

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  1. thecarve

    thecarve Misanthrope

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    Two grand for a full house...that's why!
     
  2. tringlomane

    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    But you're betting $30 a hand too...;) Glad to see Cosmo has 8/6 Boner at dollar+ levels I'm guessing. Nice hit! Now go find a 10X quad! Or even better! ;)
     
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  3. luvstp

    luvstp High-Roller

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    Should you even ask someone who goes by luvstp? Agree with tringlomane.....Go get a 10x quad.
     
  4. thecarve

    thecarve Misanthrope

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    Yeah...unfortunately their DSTP is 8/5 at the same levels.

    Oh, and I found a bar at Cosmo that doesn't bother with drink tickets - the HL bar. Of course, the price of admission is a $5 game...:rolleyes2:
     
  5. TriggerMN

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    Uh-oh, I hate to ask, but is that the right play, or should you dump the twos there?
     
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  6. tringlomane

    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    Two pair is the right play unless the base paytable is 6/5 "Flaccid" Deluxe (95.36% before STP) like at the CET bartops. Assholes. For DDB, two pair is correct, unless it's Aces, even at 6/5!

    Breaking this hand is probably the most common mistake I see players make though on games where two pair only pays 5. Players figure they have 5 either way, why not go for 250 (or 400 for Boner Deluxe)? Well that full house comes in a LOT more than quads from a pair.
     
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  7. remmerde

    remmerde VMB's Resident Cigar Sommelier

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    Another way to look at this; at the $5 bet, 5 credit level, this is a $1.88 mistake* every time you make it. And by VP standards, that's a somewhat big mistake.

    It surprised me how big a mistake it is, I thought it would be a closer call.

    (* How I calculate this using the WinPoker output below. The right hold will pay on average 7.9787 x {bet size}. The QQ hold will pay on average 7.6031. The difference is 0.3756 x {bet size}, so 0.3756*$5 = $1.878 )

    WinPoker doesn't simulate the 6th credit STP bonus, so you can think of this calculation as being a minimum error cost; the 6th credit just amplifies the error. So the cost will be more than $1.88 each time you make it at a $5, 6 credit STP game.


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  8. thecarve

    thecarve Misanthrope

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    Another example of why I continue to be addicted to STP:

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  9. jimboguy

    jimboguy My sloppy joe is all sloppy and no joe.

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    Not at the $ amount thecarve plays, but the 10x quad is super cool when it hits:
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    Hopefully the weather will be nice.
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  10. Mitkraft

    Mitkraft VIP Whale

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    Nice hits! To me STP is like crack, but Ultimate X is like crack on steroids!
     
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  11. tringlomane

    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    Nice hit! Cosmo should have 8/6 Boner w/STP on the Superstar units at the bar for 50c/$1, fyi. I was also surprised they offered 8/5 as cheap as nickels on the floor and dimes at the bar!

    Wow, great hit! Been so long since I got a 10X quad...definitely don't come often enough!
     
  12. thecarve

    thecarve Misanthrope

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    Forgot about this one - about gave me a damn heart attack! It's nice to get a HP from a flush. But that Ace woulda been $158,800 nicer!

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  13. Hbatc

    Hbatc Tourist

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    Is the multiplier number disappearing before you take the picture or am I missing something?
     
  14. tringlomane

    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    Yeah, on the newer machines the multiplier will disappear after the hand is completed.
     
  15. The Rumor

    The Rumor VIP Whale

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    It must be because you can tell the pays are multiplied
     
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  16. thecarve

    thecarve Misanthrope

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    That's true. And considering the fact that any extended session of Ultimate X leaves me penniless and mumbling incoherently to myself, I suppose it's a more appropriate proxy for crack than STP!
     
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