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What's the story on the Luxor re development?

Discussion in 'Casino Industry & Development' started by failsafe, Dec 2, 2016.

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  1. failsafe

    failsafe Low-Roller

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    Back when our local TV newscast announced the re development of the Monte Carlo, they mentioned that the Excalibur and Luxor will be reworked also.
    Do they intend to eliminate the Egyptian theme entirely? I hope not.
     
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    Some of the rooms have been de-themed, I imagine that when they wanted to refurbish some of them, it was easier and made sense to go neutral.

    I don't see how it would make a lot of sense to go to the trouble of de-theming the atrium, given the fact that the building is a pyramid. :haha:
     
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    Yeah this is the problem with the 90's era themed resorts, you can't re-theme a pyramid or a freakin' medieval castle, short of tearing them down and starting over.

    Fearless prediction - after the Park construction is done and dusted and MGM has construction money to throw around, I predict this is exactly what they will do with the Ex. Tear it down and start over.
     
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    I stayed at the Excalibur in 1998, guess it was fine, don't remember either way but eighteen years can take it's toll. No " emotional" attachment to that place but I would be sad to see the pyramid go.

    It may be a dump inside, but that is one iconic piece of Vegas, and a heck of a piece of architecture.
     
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    I'd hate to see Luxor OR Excalibur go down. When flying into Vegas, those are my "I'm in happy land" landmarks!
     
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    Not much left in the atrium! Luxor makes me sad. More so than most other places that had their theme removed. I know we are long removed from the boat ride, the Tomb of Tut and the talking camels. But the hack job they did to the food court pretty much killed what was left that made the joint fun to me.

    I liked having my Sausage McMuffin in an old Egyptian bizarre. Now I'm left with some chicken strips in "Any mall USA" as my ambiance.

    NY NY took out Central Park and the little bridges and waterways as well. At least their food court is still fun
     
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  7. jmiller31

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    I agree, about Luxor. I never liked the casino but the way they "updated" it just made it look so sad. They could have easily left the theme and made the entire place work well. I've always loved the exterior of Excalibur at night, it just has this happy look about it. I think of all of the themed properties MB has done the best job of keeping up the look while not looking dated.
     
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    I have nothing against the themes. hey its Vegas!
     
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  9. Ashton7

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    I hate hate hate it that they have de-themed all of these places and the Luxor most of all. It used to be we couldn't wait for our annual trip to The Luxor and we loved every little Egyptian part of it. It's the reason we came to Vegas the very first time years ago when the Luxor was new. It makes me so sad when I go there now. When we left every year, I would cry and couldn't wait to come back. Now we stay elsewhere most of the time (usually the Paris which doesn't seem to be ashamed of its theme) and maybe visit the Luxor for a few hours.
     
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    I stayed in a Luxor pyramid room about 2 years ago and it was terrible. Room was very worn and dated and AC didn't work very well. Also, the inclinators were slow enough that I used the stairs about half the time. The only redeeming features to the place are the craps limits, sportsbook, and Tender.

    MGM has tough decisions with these 2 properties with them filling the low roller niche. Do they implode and rebuild on the cheap? Do they build a new upscale resort and either lose the low-end crowd or allow another property to fill that niche? With the changes as MC and NYNY's proximity to the Park, I'm guessing that they freshen both places up and continue dethroning the rooms and common areas but don't implode for a decade or so.
     
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    I doubt rebuilding a resort anywhere near this scale can be done"on the cheap". Luxor is I think still one of the world's top ten largest hotels and would probably cost o$1 billion or more to rebuild. Which may happen eventually, given the prime location.

    When it first opened about 25 years ago, the theming was so enthusiastic that even the cocktail waitresses wore wigs that resembled hairstyles visible in ancient Egyptian art. Back then, it was the place to be. However, I stayed in the Excalibur around the same time and it was very low end, about the level of a 1.5 star hotel.
     
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    Luxor is going to be rebranded as Imperial Palace.
     
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    Would like to see the balconies on the pyramid!
     
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    Strongly agree. A complete tear down and rebuild will be so mind-numbingly expensive, they'd have to aim for poaching the high end clientele from Cosmo/Wynncore/VP. No one is going to invest billions just to end up selling $49 rooms.

    My bet is Luxor and Excal are at least a couple decades away from even being considered for tear-down. And it would probably require a big global economic boom first. It will take a while for the current CEOs/EVPs to forget the '08-'09 bust and bankruptcies.

    And even when MGM gets in the mood for a huge capital intensive development project, they may have their eye on the either the parcel across from Luxor or Mandalay Bay first (they could re-route Giles Street). Also remember, Cosmo showed everone what you can do with a fairly small slice of land.
     
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    I tear-down is highly unlikely. I think what MGM is trying to do is "rebrand" these themed casinos by removing anything that made them interesting to begin with. They are stuck with the pyramid and will need to brand around it I guess.

    Luxor is that one property for me where I can't seem to catch a break. I enjoyed my first visit there when it first opened to see the exhibits, ride the inclinator, do the Nile River ride and see the fake tomb, but I can NEVER seem to win anything in their casino, I always seem to get terrible service at restaurants and those talking camels will haunt my dreams forever. ;) I haven't been back in there for years.
     
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    I like the themes, the corporate numbness of Aria and Cosmo do little for me. That's what makes Vegas great, there's something for everyone if they de-theme the whole place it would take away some of the fun. I still miss the various themed cocktail waitress outfits, etc which at least let you know you were visiting a different casino, I don't personally want a homogenous lump of sameness!
     
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    It's all or nothing in Vegas. Once "themed" places started popping up everything new had a theme. Then it went the other way. New places were not themed and the older themed places started to "de-theme". I don't know how you de-theme a pyramid but damned if MGM hasn't been doing that over the years.
     
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    I think most people here agree. But so much of the theming has been removed. That's the lament. Sure, it's still a pyramid and there is still a seaport up the road, but Luxor no longer is Luxor and TI no longer is TI.
     
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    But sadly, Circus Circus will always be with us.
     
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    Now that would have been a site to see...
     
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