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What's the latest north of Wynn/encore?

Discussion in 'Casino Industry & Development' started by AceRothstein80, Jan 27, 2017.

  1. AceRothstein80

    AceRothstein80 Low-Roller

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    It has been many many years since I have been further than the Wynn to the North. 5-6 years ago, I knew 1(or 2) construction projects were halted, I never heard what the status on them were.

    Also now, The Riv closed I heard. So for now, is if pretty much just Circus Circus and Stratosphere left? Is there anything else open or planning on opening?
     
  2. UKFanatic

    UKFanatic The Arbiter of Taste Caviar Kid

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    There is SLS, which used to be the Sahara. There is also the Lucky Dragon, which just opened a couple months ago.
     
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    topcard Older than the Stardust!

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    Supposedly, Resorts World is going to eventually open on the old Stardust site, (that was going to be Echelon Place before Boyd bailed out).
     
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    Alon is dead. But I believe someone else (maybe President Trump?) eventually will pick up that site and put something up.
     
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    shokhead I'm no big spender!

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    His kids, not him or all hell would break loose. lol
     
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    I'm not holding my breath on anything between Wynncore and SLS! My prediction is that the vacant tracts and shells will stand as monuments to corporate greed for another decade!

    Boyd really blew it when they killed the Stardust, which had to be a fully-depreciated cash cow, to go for Yet Another megaresort. On the other hand, had they not abandoned the project when they did, they most likely would have gone hard bankrupt, as in out of business!
     
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  7. AceRothstein80

    AceRothstein80 Low-Roller

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    How long has The Stardust been down? I don't think I was in it after 05 or 06. It is too bad places like that and The Riv are gone. It gives the low rollers more options on the strip. I am not a huge fan of walking past endless hallways of 10k watches and suits to get to the casino or an elevator!

    And I ask about The Stardust, meaning how long has the new place been in limbo. I remember a cabbie telling me about the half built building on the east side of the strip, with all the glass they talked of selling. Is that ever gonna be finished?
     
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  8. shokhead

    shokhead I'm no big spender!

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    Anything big and new will be North ie Resorts World.
     
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    That was the Fountableu. Carl Ichan bought it in bankruptcy and has just been sitting on it. He sold off the room furnishings, some which were used for the Plaza room remodel.
    EDIT: I guess it is up for sale at 650 million and the estimated cost to finish it is 1-1.5 billion. That is billion with a B.
     
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    The shot below was taken in 2007, IIRC, shortly after it was blown up. Of course this was right before the Great Recession hit!

    The big glass building is the Fontainebleau, another heavily-leveraged project that crashed and burned during said Recession.

    [​IMG]
     
  11. Rooster0620

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    The strip now stops at the Wynn. Circus Circus/SLS et al are no more closer to the strip than the Palms/Rio.
     
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  12. shokhead

    shokhead I'm no big spender!

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    Wynn to CC, less then a mile.
     
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    Rooster0620 Low-Roller

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    Rio to the Strip. Less than a mile.
     
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    shokhead I'm no big spender!

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    Maybe as the crow flys but let's say Rio to Flamingo, closer to 1.5 but who's counting Walking it in April, no problem for many. Walking it in Sept, just wrong!:thumbsup:
     
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    That would make it "one block", as told by Vegas marketroids. :) :) :)
     
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    I warned 'em during my last stay at the Stardust in July '06. I stayed there 6-7 times from '04 until '06, the last 3 times comped, probably due to a $1400+ .25 Royal I hit at the Baccarat Bar in Sept. '03. Anyway, I read of the possible closing in the LVA just before my July visit. I remember posting on the LVA message boards "If they close, I'm takin' names" and during my stay I pretty much (drunkenly AND sober) pleaded with every employee ("pleeeease don't close!!). Now, 10+ years later, I STILL chuckle when I go past that area. Casinos, LISTEN TO YOUR CUSTOMERS.
     
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    Oh man. Reading this thread, I just realized that on my first trip to Las Vegas the Stardust and Frontier were both still open. I had always assumed they closed long before I ever made it out there but my first trip was in May 2006; the Stardust closed November 2006 and the Frontier closed July 2007, according to Wikipedia.

    I stayed at Sahara that first trip and never walked farther south from the hotel than Circus Circus. I also never walked farther north from the main part of the Strip than Mirage on that trip.

    Damn, would have been nice to have a first hand experience to put with all of the posts I see about those hotels on this forum.
     
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    Let me help... you're welcome! Boy. Almost 10 years since the implosion. :)https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=stardust+hotel+las+vegas
     
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    Thanks! How were the pay tables? Nothing about the video makes me think I missed anything special in terms of the design or aesthetics but that sometimes means I missed out on good gaming LOL.
     
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    They had very good .25 VP there, and good $1 and up. But back then I played more 21 than I do now. Now I'm about 90% VP, and 5% BJ and craps, with some slot play mixed in. But the Stardust was a great place to play just about anything. The drink service in the casino and Sports book rocked! They used to have some $5 6-deck shoes and $10 single-deck 21 with 3/2 on BJs. None of this 6/5 BS that's prevalent on the Strip now.