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What would you play to double your money?

Discussion in 'Casino Gaming' started by Electroguy563, Apr 17, 2016.

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What would you play to double your money?

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  1. NotFromConcentrate

    NotFromConcentrate It’s a Cassowary :)

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    Yes I did - that's why I said "only one other person".
     
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    Interesting perspective on three card I had not thought of before.
    Curious to know if you play pairs plus.
     
  4. Electroguy563

    Electroguy563 Vegas Joker

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    Owwwww...... just thinking about it hurts. I'll go rub my balls now....:poke::beer:
     
  5. Big dan

    Big dan High-Roller

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    So what you are saying is to back every hand in three card poker? not fold anything worse than a q7 like they tell you is the correct play? Does anyone else feel this is the correct play?
     
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    It's the correct play if you're just trying to double your money. If you had $20 and already have half or more on the table, you might as well play what's left because you won't have enough to play another hand. But you'll have a 50/50 chance of winning your money back / doubling your money
     
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    Right. But choosing this game in this scenario is a bad choice in the first place.

    Once I was playing 3CP and placed my last $5 chip on the ante. I was willing to reload with a playable hand. But I get Q64, the worst hand you correctly raise with. Basically thought, "Fuck it, I fold."

    I concur with the other posters on EZ Baccarat.
     
  8. topcard

    topcard Here's to $10 3:2 two-deck, $5 Craps, and $5 UTH!

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    When I play 3-card, I always play the pair-plus, even knowing it's a huge house-advantage, "sucker" bet...it's where the fun is for that game!
    But for a one-time, single-event bet? Skip the PP and play the ante/play bets blind. In my view, it's clearly the best game to use for such a bet.
     
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    I'd just stick with blackjack. I'd be tempted to play $10/hand rather than wager the entire $20 on one hand.
     
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    topcard Here's to $10 3:2 two-deck, $5 Craps, and $5 UTH!

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    Nope...only for a one-hand event.
    If you regularly play this way, here's what happens:
    You will have an equal number of hands where you fail to qualify, and the the dealer fails to qualify.
    For some high percentage of those, one of you will have a Q-high or better and the other will not. This circumstance will balance-out between you & the dealer.
    When the dealer has the Q-high, you will lose $20.
    When you have the Q-high, you will only win $10.

    So - even though the frequency of that situation (winning versus losing) will be a 50-50 split, you will lose twice as much as you win.
    No good for multiple plays...but for a single-hand? Absolutely!

    Now - to be fair - it's not quite as bad as I just painted, because for about 1/3 of the times when dealer fails to qualify, you don't qualify either - and, had you looked, you would have folded...so, you'll win $10 on hands where you you would lose $10 if you played 'basic strategy'.

    But the $10 wins versus $20 losses of the other two-thirds crush that minor benefit.

    Let's look at the 5 possible hand combinations - Let's assume you play 100 of them blind, $10/$10.
    1. Both you & the dealer have non-qualifying hands = a $10 win (11% of the time.) Result = +$110
    2. You have a Q high or better and the dealer does not = a $10 win (22% of the time) Result = +$220
    3. You have a Q high or better & beat the dealer's Q high = a $20 win (22.5% of the time) Result = +$450
    4. You have a non-qualifier & the dealer has a Q or better = a $20 loss (22% of the time) Result = -$440
    5. Both you & the dealer have Q high or better, but you lose = a $20 loss (22.5% of the time) -$450
    Net result? That would be a loss of $110.
    It's because, even though the frequency of you or the dealer having a non-qualifier against a qualifier is the same (22% of the time), you only win $10 when you get it, but the dealer wins $20 when he gets it.
    That's the bulk of the HA.

    (But note: The percentage of hands where you win something (#s 1, 2 & 3) = 55.5%, versus losing 44.5%. A good odds bet for a single event).
     
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    topcard Here's to $10 3:2 two-deck, $5 Craps, and $5 UTH!

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    A few more comments on 3-card...
    Remember - both you and the dealer will fail to qualify about 1/3 of each of your hands. Meaning that if you play blind, about 2/3 of the time you would have played even if you had looked.
    But this is sort of like the 'Let's Make a Deal' puzzle.
    Once you look at your hand & you see that you do not have a qualifier, you already know that there is a 66.67% chance that the dealer does have a qualifier.
    That's why, when you look at your hand and see a non-qualifier, it is the correct play to fold.
    If you do not look, you do not know this information - only that for 2/3 of the time, you would probably play anyway, and for 1/3 of the remaining 1/3 (11% of all hands), the dealer won't qualify either.
    But if you look and a see a non-qualifier, then there is a 100% chance that you have a non-qualifier...givng the house an astronomical 67% advantage...which is why you fold if you look.
     
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    Sports Book.........though a straight single game bet pays -110 so not technically double I guess. But.....that's what I would do. Sweet talk the ticket writer and you might even get a drink ticket :beer:
     
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    Just go play your guitar in the lobby somewhere w your hat upside down in front of you (am I allowed to do this lol ) and you'll get ten bucks perhaps in an hour
     
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    I like the three card idea..
    my cousin and I did this a few years back for cab fare... $20 on roulette..red or black, depending on how the wheel looked/we felt.
    it worked 7/10 times..free cab rides!
     
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    Craps... Pass line with Odds. Hoping for a 7, 11, 6 or 8....
     
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    Craps hard 6.
    If you win you can skip the buffet and get a nice dinner or still go to McDonalds and get a shit load of happy meals.
     
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    I would play video poker or video blackjack and be patient slowly getting the money up. It is those who try to go all in at one time who can lose real quick. Winning real quick is just luck, but not preferable if only a 20 is all you had. Way too much pressure will cause you to pick the wrong thing and lose. If the 20 was all I had, I would slowly build up by playing video poker or video blackjack. Also you have to know when to hold and when to hit. Sometimes depending on what the dealer has, you may want to stand at 12-16. 16 or below dealer has to hit, so it is better safe than hitting and busting getting a big card. It is better if the dealer has a big card with a 3 to make it 13 and then hit again to hopefully get another big card and bust rather than you.
     
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    You can lose it quick, yes... but you can also win it quick.

    The issue with playing longer is that the house edge will cumulatively become greater and greater in dollars. If you play $20 on blackjack and win the hand at a game with 1% house edge, your expected loss is $0.20, and your "long run" value of your buy-in is now $19.80. But you've won, getting a return of 100%, bringing your buy-in's value to $40. You have definitely beaten the odds at that point.

    Comparatively, let's say you've bought in for $50 at a $5 blackjack table with the same edge, and decided to keep playing. First hand, winner. Expected loss of $0.05 - stack is now $55.00. Suppose you keep on playing - we'll say 300 hands at a $5 average bet. Mathematically, you should have lost $15 by now if you are playing perfect basic strategy. So, for you to have doubled your money would not only require you to win about 10 hands more than hands you've lost, but it would also require you to have additional wins to compensate for the house edge that has accumulated as you've played.

    So to play it quick gets you the possibility of winning a 100% return (or 150% if you get blackjack) and being subjected to virtually no house edge... whereas playing it slow subjects you to many more risks, and much more of a house edge.
     
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    VP...if I was shooting the dice personally?...Field
     
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    $5 table, pass line with odds
     
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