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what would have done?

Discussion in 'Misc. Vegas Chat' started by paperposter, Oct 24, 2013.

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  1. themightydude

    themightydude High-Roller

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    I was playing at the bellagio earlier this year during the superbowl.
    Found a $25 table that only had one guy playing. I was playing $25 - $75 / hand and he was playing $100 - $300 / hand but the guy was a complete asshole. Everytime I would make a "questionable" move to him he'd call me out.
    I hit a 12 against a dealer 7 and he said...why the fuck did you do that and it went on and on. If the dealer one this guy would get all pissed and start cussing under his breath. Whatever..I got a thick skin and it really doesn't bother me, but this guy was really a prick. He went to the bathroom and the nice dealer lady was talking to me apologizing about the guys. She said I'm sorry..he's been rude to me the last hour or so and he's just not very nice. To bad we can't get him to leave this table.

    So when he came back, I got a pair of 10's against a dealer 8.

    I split them..something I would never do...but this guys reaction was definitely worth doing that. I did loose my bet, but whatever. It was funny and the dealer high five'd me after he left lol. She said this guy never tipped at all either. I like to tip $5 for the dealer every few hands..seems to be lucky for me :)
     
  2. LV_Bound

    LV_Bound VIP Whale

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    Asking people NOT to play at a table?
    BJ people are so funny. :eek:
    Blaming others when they lose and now asking people not to play at a table?
    What next? Asking people not to play because they have a certain color shirt??? :stir::stir::stir:
     
  3. Dean Martin

    Dean Martin VIP Whale

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    Exactly:nworthy: And that is why I gave up BJ after it was my main game for so many years. Although I don't think the OP did anything wrong at all there are jut too many cry babies that want to direct every body else's bets:poke:
     
  4. themightydude

    themightydude High-Roller

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    For the new players I see come up to the BJ tables and ask the tables opinion on what they should do, I always tell them what I think they should do according to basic strat, but in the end it's your money and not mine. I know we have all played at those tables before where you got a new BJ table making absolutely horrible decisions but somehow keeps winning.
     
  5. vegasqc

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    It might have been a higher limit table but that table was still on the main floor and not in the "private " area.


    Its your money but its not your option unless the casino decides you deserve a private table and in this case they clearly didnt

    Why did you ask for our opinion if you're gonna slam everybody that doesnt agree with you?
     
  6. Keyser Soze

    Keyser Soze Low-Roller

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    There are other people at the table???
     
  7. paperposter

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    i was playing by myself and plenty off open tables .as i said it was a weekday and dead so where they sat down and played at my table or moved over to next one which they did had no impaxct on casino.

    as i said in my opining no other problems at except the pit guy came over a said after i asked would you mind waiting till i finish the show.

    they went to the next table and then said i cant ask people to waite only if they ask me if i mind can i say yes.
    i was very polite and i told the pit boss they where more than welcome play at the table i was at i would have been happy to color up and move.

    ive plyed bj for 30 years now .it wasnt a 5 dollar table and the casino was dead with tons of open tables.

    ive done this for years and they never said boo about it.
    i just posted so there was a open discussion i dont take critisism personly but when a guy asked why and i explain my experince ive had with some bad players thats why.

    its a discusion board i thought the pit was wrong to say something but had the right to do it.

    i like reading all the threads here as ive learned alot and i hope some people like my reviews of some clubs and shows ive been to.

    just 3 cents. as led zeppelin said gamble on
     
  8. Kickin

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    The casino also makes more money by keeping a low limit player from joining the high limit player.

    For example, the casino makes LESS money when a $25 player joins a $500 player versus just letting the $500 playing alone. Even though there is technically more being bet per round, the average is cut down so much and the increased total hands isn't enough to compensate for it.

    That's another reason why any halfway intelligent pit boss raises the table limits if a high limit player sits down alone, in addition to giving the player space, player norms, etc.
     
  9. Dean Martin

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    I will say that I have learned from this board about some of the etiquette for table play that I didn't know when I played all table games.

    Now I only played $10-$20 average/hand and at low limit tables with other low limit players so it probably doesn't come into play at those tables but I totally understand when somebody is playing alone and betting large that a person should be asking or better yet; don't ask, just wait or find another table.

    While it does irriate the hell out of me when someone thinks they can direct or comment on somebody elses play/choices, trying to sit at a table where someone is clearly risking much more than the normal BJ player and clearly playing alone is a totally different subject. It seems like it should be a common courtesy/sense to hang back or just go find another table in that situation.

    I'd think playing in a HL room would alliviate that problem as anyone playing in there would know the does and don'ts and most likely feel exactly the same way.
     
  10. nostresshere

    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    It amazes me how many are responding to something without the facts.

    NOBODY here knows what the other gambler said to the pit boss when he arrived at the other table.
     
  11. paperposter

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    actualy nothing as he came over emeditaly and never spoke to them ,they didnt have a mlife card and just bought in for 200$
     
  12. firstkill

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    I do the same. If I'm winning by my self I ask people to wait a few hands.

    If I'm losing it doesn't matter.


    Fk
     
  13. 442jay

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    I appreciate and respect the wisdom shared in these posts by experienced high-limit players. Especially since they are mostly level-headed, objective explanations and opinions. This is how one learns and gains additional wisdom. Key points within these posts are 'not-so-common these days' courtesy and proper etiquette. I feel at 46 I've missed the days of polite and well mannered society, though I had a sampling from my grandmother (born 1911) during her 90 years on earth. Some of the negative responses to the OP exhibit this modern social problem.
    To some, gambling is serious business while to others it is all for fun. If both sides understand and respect the other (through common courtesy!) there shouldn't be a problem. ie. serious players know to expect drunken stupidness at the $5 table but likewise the party'er needs to know the proper etiquette when joining in on the serious game. So when a person posts '[screw you] I'm doin' what I want', It shows the poor manners, etiquette, lack of politeness or civility that are becoming more and more the norm...
     
  14. casinoboy

    casinoboy Low-Roller

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    nice post :beer:
     
  15. ju5tagt

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  16. thecarve

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    Let me put a hypothetical situation out there for you guys, and you let me know what you think:

    Casino X has only two tables on the main floor with the best rules that are open. At one of those tables, a High Roller has had the minimums raised to $1000 – too rich for my blood. The other has $100 minimums with one player playing $100-200/hand with a total chip stack of roughly $2000. I take my two grand out and sit at the $100 table. “Mind if I join you?” I ask.

    “Yes, I want to play heads up”, he replies.

    “Well, I’m sorry, but this is the only table with these rules available in the casino other than the $1000 table over there. So, I’m afraid I have to play here”, I say and proceed to buy in and start playing.

    Who’s in the wrong and why?
     
  17. merlin

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    Typically good manners would involve asking the seated player if they mind if you play immediately(or to wait for the shuffle), you are not expected to sit out forever. Anyone who thinks they can play alone for extended periods is kidding themselves.
     
  18. landsburger

    landsburger High-Roller

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    I've never played much, but always had the sense to not even try to sit at a table with a player that is obviously there to play alone (bet size and mannerisms is often the tell). However, I can see many casual players not understanding this.
     
  19. Kickin

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    Exactly. This is it in a nutshell for both sides of the equation. It's just the normal etiquette from my experience.

    thecarve in your hypothetical scenario you would be in the right and the other guy would be in the wrong. But that isn't the scenario being discussed. The equivalent would be if that guy said "sure come in but do you mind waiting for the shuffle?" It's a polite request, as the OP says his was. Sure you have the right not to care and jump in right away, but it's pretty gruff.
     
  20. thecarve

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    You're right - the OP's situation was certainly a different one (and I hope my earlier comments were not taken as an attack on the OP).

    I guess I'm just trying to find where folks draw the line. At what point does the guy asking you not to play go from being "a serious gambler who is simply observing proper etiquette" to a jerk? Some posts in this thread have given me the impression that some people think that if a "serious gambler" wants to be alone, it's rude to intrude.

    Is it reasonable to ask someone to sit out 20-30 minutes?
     
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