Discussion in 'Video Poker' started by dwild, Mar 7, 2020.
That's an intense game right there....what denom do you play at?
Probably 90% DDB, occasional BP- usually when I'm having a bad run at DDB. I'm usually playing multi-play machines unless my favorites are taken. Also occasional Ultimate X and Super Times Pay.
I should have specified...$.25 is about all I can handle. I'm going about $500 deep on $12.50 hands.
10 line UX is $25 a round. Definitely a lot of swings.
Yes, correct...my bad on that one. And I bet my strategy is messed up because my eye always catches that one 8x or 10x and I tend to play to that hand and let that zero X hands play out as they will.
Depends on the adjustments you're making. If you're throwing a high pair for 3 to a Royal or even taking 3 to a Royal over 4 to a flush (because of the 10x chances next hand), those are somewhat suboptimal. If the average multiplier isn't at least 4X, you're also supposed to hold Aces Up at 8/5 DDB. I wouldn't expect anyone to do that...
So I play a fair amount of TDB (when I'm not playing DDB or BP) but strangely never practiced it that much at home to see what the correct plays are. I'm a little surprised (on the VPW software anyway) that they want you to keep a kicker w/ 3 Aces. I also didn't know that holding 3 to a flush was correct but I'm not sure how often I'd hold that anyway. Thoughts from some of you other VP addicts?
Mostly JOB or (single) Bonus Poker.
I'm slowly learning Deuces Wild.
If you're not playing "full pay" 9/7 TDB, where the flush pays 35 coins, you don't need to worry about 3 to a flush as much. It's still can be correct at 9/6 TDB, but the error cost is significantly less. It's never correct to hold 3 to a flush at 9/5 TDB or lower.
Here's an example of holding J73 suited over Jack high. Expected value written in wager units.
So I wouldn't worry about 3 to a flush in 9/6 TDB much.
Now holding the kicker that is a BIG deal, 5x the value for having the quad with the kicker is HUGE. If you don't regularly hold the kicker on trip Aces, 2s, 3s, or 4s on TDB, or Triple Triple Bonus (TTB), I would strongly suggest to play DDB instead.
This can be pretty easily illustrated with some math just looking at the value of making four Aces in TDB.
Expected value of making quad Aces (in coins) with holding the kicker:
4000 x 1/47 = 85.11
Expected value of making quad Aces without holding the kicker:
800 x 2/47 x 35/46 = 25.90
4000 x 2/47 x 11/46 = 40.70
Also the same math applies to trip 2-4s, so hold the kicker there too. Also you should break Aces thru 4s full as well in TDB, or TTB.
Thanks for all the great mathematical examples! I did see on my VPW software that it was a very large mathematical monetary mistake. I guess what I was doing is playing too conservative and thinking I should give my self a better shot at at least the 800 credit win.
I play 70% 8/5 BP at 4 Queens, 20% Downtown Deuces at California and 10% BP Deluxe at the Plaza
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