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What does Las Vegas need?

Discussion in 'Misc. Vegas Chat' started by pressitagain, Jul 24, 2020.

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  1. ken2v

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    :thumbsup: It certainly does. But Vegas just always rebounds. We think it's dead or dying or slowly ebbing; we don't like nightclubs or resort fees or 8/5 DDB; it's not what it was when it was "great" ... and the numbers just keep going on. I know, everything eventually decays. It's just not Vegas' time yet.
     
  2. HHFan

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    Yep, you can pretty much end the thread here. If meetings and events don’t return, Vegas as we know it is over. It’s huge margin/high volume business that every strip player is absolutely dependent on.

    These resorts can’t survive on the individual tourist, even if demand in that sector magically returns to normal (which it won’t). There aren’t enough whales to go around for gambling to make a dent either.

    I live/work in the resort industry in a market that similarly started as a tourist destination before morphing into a meeting/event powerhouse that drives the actual money for everything around here. We’re in for a world of hurt, even with the major draws reopened.
     
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  3. mike mc

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    Just an opinion and I am sure I have missed something Vegas needs to be the mecca of All the major sporting event championships .Pro football, NCAA Football, Men's and Women's Final 4,NBA Final ,Pro Hockey, Worlds Series, UFC, Bring back big time boxing ( Remember Hagler vs Hearns), dare devils like Evel Knievel
     
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  4. Stinkfinger

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    I feel the coventions will come back at some point. Business travel worldwide will decline in the future I think but the trade shows and coventions will return. Many sales techniques require in person meetings. Much easier to blow a salesman off online then in person.
     
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  5. comfortablynumb

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    Time to move the A's to Vegas. We already stole the Raiders from Oakland... why not MLB too? :D
     
  6. phade

    phade Keeping tabs on LV while not there...

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    Experiences will continue to dominate; incorporating technology that balances the face to face experience with the ultra-convenience factor. Establishing a seamless blend of social media/electronic connectivity, escapism, gambling, dining, clubbing, and socialization, and probably social causes to a degree. It's probably not one-game changing addition, but a blend of the parts to create a sum, if you will.
     
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  7. ACSCLE

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    I'm a little younger than you and I'm the same way. I don't understand all these comments bemoaning that young people don't like gambling and all the rest. Just according to this thread, young people are:

    Thinking In-N-Out is fine dining, not worth pursuing compared to 50+ customers, only care about Fortnite, and walk around staring at our phones so we should take whatever we're given.

    If those are the opinions casino executives have then I see why Vegas is struggling to attract us :rolleyes2:

    To answer the thread question, I don't think anything crazy needs to be done. Vegas has something for everyone, whether it's gambling, shows, food, clubs, festivals, etc. Once coronavirus passes, whenever that may be, all those things will be back in full force and people will be more than overdue for a vacation. So I guess the #1 thing Vegas needs is a return to normalcy, plus the convention business to return.
     
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  8. comfortablynumb

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    Uh, no offense- but have you seen a group of 18-30-something's gathered together lately? I'm afraid that's exactly what they're like. Hell, I'm 40 and my face is buried in my screen most of the time. Just because a truth is unlflattering doesn't mean it isn't a truth.

    MeowWolf/Area15 and the Neon Museum are honed in on what younger folks want.
     
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    I guess I run with a different kind of people in that age range then. Just because your generalization is right in your experience doesn't mean it is for mine or for others.
     
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  11. comfortablynumb

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    What's different about you and your friend group? Genuinely curious.
     
  12. ACSCLE

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    Being serious about gambling, not into clubbing, enjoying seeing the Vegas shows, I guess? Plus I don't give a damn about Fortnite :haha:

    I just don't like generalizing people by age because that leaves a lot of people excluded from what those in charge think we care about. I'm sure I gamble more than a lot of older visitors to Vegas and I'm sure a lot of older visitors can party harder than I can. That's why we all love Vegas, you can do what you want how you want.

    I feel it's short sighted if casinos/etc focus on making changes for one specific group, whether it's young people or whatever. Because it may not last. Look at the clubs that have closed. They assumed they'd be printing money getting all the young kids to pay for bottle service and to see whoever DJ for the night and for a lot of places, it didn't work out.

    If they really want Vegas to improve they need changes that can benefit everyone like no resort fees, new restaurants, etc. Also better gambling conditions, even though not everyone gambles in Vegas I'm sure most do.
     
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  13. TiffyChick

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    @ACSCLE I couldn't agree more!
     
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    Sounds like we'd get along. Unfortunately, I just don't meet many people like you who are under 30.

    I'm still looked down upon by people older than me. I went to see Wayne Newton when I was in Las Vegas in February and got made fun of for it. I was the youngest person there, aside from Wayne's family members (who were sitting by me).

    So I'm definitely not criticizing you for being different, I've been different all my adult life. I just don't meet many like me.
     
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    @comfortablynumb I would actually flip out if I got to see Wayne Newton! I'm early 40's. Not in my twenties, but not ancient (yet!). :D
     
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    Hopefully he'll do another show once things open up some more. In February he was at Cleopatra's Barge inside Ceasar's, which is a nice small venue. Good views with up-close seating.
     
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    We definitely would get along! I think I went through all the wild behavior when I was really young and now I have an old soul lol. We just have to be proud of being different and being yourself whether people like it or not.
     
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    At this point, any conversation about younger people not gambling is based in statistics. What Vegas has done is basically fired many demographics of customers chasing convention customers and millennials. It's worked for conventions but the things targeted to younger customers keep going bust. Meanwhile people with more disposable don't feel valued and are exploring their entertainment options. Vegas needs to grow it's customer base without alienating folks who have been loyal to it.
     
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    Not to be ironic as I am indeed generalizing here, but I think that the older crowd almost wants to generalize the younger crowd of only being into clubs, getting trashed with those $25 large drinks down near MGM, only going to pool parties. I.e. not the reason the city was created, gambling.

    I suppose that, like @ACSCLE I'm absolutely of the gambling/drinking mindset when going there, and comps lol. I like the pool when I'm with friends, but I go alone often so it's all day benders. I'm also a terrible gambler, so they keep inviting me back haha.
     
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