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Table Games What do you do when a dealer begs for tips?

Discussion in 'Table Games' started by ams722, Aug 28, 2014.

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  1. ams722

    ams722 Side Bet Shunner

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    Yeah there are some dealers in Detroit who are particularly bad about it.

    They know the side bets are sucker bets, but they encourage people to play them so they'll get tipped if they hit something big.
     
  2. Malibugolfer

    Malibugolfer High-Roller

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    It seems to happen, albeit seldom to me, on the floor much more than in the HL room.
    I color up immediately. Bad vibe means no enjoyment and probably a loss.
    Ams, how did you have a guy to your left when you were at third. Not that it mattered in your story.
     
  3. Hobofrank

    Hobofrank Prime Minister of Idiocracy

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    I read it as he meant 1st base
     
  4. flyguyfl

    flyguyfl VIP Whale

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    I had just the opposite happen at Harrah's Biloxi. I bought in for $200 at a $5 min Let it Ride table and immediately started playing $10 min per hand and putting out $2 for the dealer each hand. Nobody else tipped and that game is a low tip option for the dealer. I only won 1 of 11 hands and missed out on a three card bonus with a flush. The dealer was very grateful but looking back I wished I had stayed the course and played until the tide turned.
     
  5. gmille58

    gmille58 Low-Roller

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    I was playing in Macau back before the Vegas chains opened nice resorts. Playing sic bo and hit a few numbers and the dealer would put the payout forward, pick up a chip and say "teeep, teeep". I was shocked but mumbled OK. I haven't had too many blatant hustlers in US casinos, but I am pretty generous when winning.

    One Vegas trip when I was in college, I was on fire, won at everything. Playing BJ at the Horseshoe I was winning, and a few times I put up a red chip in front of everyone. Boss came by and saw the dealers tip box full of red chips, asked who was doing that, she pointed at me and he handed me a buffet comp for my group. That was the first trip where I had ever been comped so I thought it was great.
     
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    There is a craps dealer in Vegas at one of the major casinos who is very aggresive in helping himself to tips. For example, he would say to newbies "here give me 2 greens and I'll set you up on the six and 8", and he would put $24 on the 6 and 8, AND $1 as a dealer tip on each number. Similar for other types of bets. Very slimy, and whenever I see him dealing, I always avoid his table or at least the side he is working.
     
  7. shokhead

    shokhead No big spender unless eating drinking having fun!

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    That's it in a nutshell.
     
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    mickeydfly13 Low-Roller

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    No harm no foul. There are many more things to get upset about. I wouldn't have minded, I would have just left it it bothered me that much (which it wouldn't have.)
     
  9. mdee

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    Good Post! This is why I stick to Slots! I'm curious about Table Games but also intimidated!
    With Slots it's just Man Vs. Machine. I don't need confrontations or want interaction from others.
     
  10. ams722

    ams722 Side Bet Shunner

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    Oops I meant on my right. I was indeed at 3rd base.
     
  11. bu$hman

    bu$hman Guppie trying to become a whale

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    That is sad.
     
  12. RockyBalboa

    RockyBalboa Front Line Winner

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    That's slimeball stuff there. Which casino?
     
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    RockyBalboa Front Line Winner

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    Oh wow! That is terrible. You should have just given the dealer the finger, very subtly, when picking up your chips off the table.
     
  14. Electroguy563

    Electroguy563 Over-Fried Gambler

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    Wow. It's amazing that this stuff is happening. I play craps exclusively Downtown and I'm at the point where I know most of the dealers and won't play on the tables that have the obnoxious or indifferent ones. But I have yet to experience the stuff mentioned here.

    Like Rocky mentioned, I wouldn't hesitate to give them the finger, depending how bad it is. There was one time the dealer on my side of the table was a total ass. After I colored up to blacks and greens I had 4 reds and a couple of whites left over. I looked at the dealer on the other side of the table and tossed them to him, saying "for the dealers...". I then looked at the dealer on my side of the table, shook my head sadly and walked away.
     
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    3 card poker is almost the only table game I ever play. I like to tip when I am winning. When I am losing, I have this compulsion to mention that I am down, so they understand why I am not tipping. I can't ever recall a time where I was encouraged to lay a tip.
     
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    I play mostly craps, but I still play BJ on occasion. I typically always tip even when I'm losing in craps. I can't remember the last time I played a session where I was tipping well and the dealers didn't make an error in my favor.
     
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    I had it happen once at Caesars AC. It was a green chip table that was going pretty bad and no one was tipping. It was a surly older dealer. At one point on a win of a $50 bet the dealer paid me in all reds (or a green and the rest reds). I asked why he did that and he said I may want to use them for something, and just gave me a look and raised his eyebrows. Pretty obvious what he was saying and I was pretty dumbfounded at how crass he was.

    I tip dealers a lot too. Over my last strip I would generally get change for a black and regularly play $5 or $10 for the dealers. It could easily be $100 per hour if not more which is upwards of 2k during the trip. I can't think of anyone else in any other business who I end up tipping as much. These are primarily $100 or $200 tables and I think the vast majority of players I see don't tip nearly as much or don't tip at all.

    However that occasion at Caesars AC was the only one I can clearly remember where a dealer basically asked for a tip. By and large I have great dealers who are entertaining, have good conversations, and remember me from previous trips. Many of the dealers on my last trip at MGM not only remembered me from the past but also remembered things we talked about. For the most part the crabby dealers I've experienced have been on lower limit tables.
     
  18. DonD

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    Nothing stops me from tipping faster than when a dealer try's to hustle me for tips. I tip pretty good when I'm winning but very little or none when I'm losing.

    Dealers that are reported for hustling tips are sometimes given a formal warning and worse at times.

    Contrary to popular opinion, the house doesn't like too many tips. Tips are monies that are taken out of action and hurts what they call the churn.
     
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    Yes please, what casino is that?
     
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    I'm a pretty good tipper when I play tables, but if a dealer is blatant about hustling for tips, it's a huge turnoff to me. Fortunately I've only encountered it a couple times, and just colored up and went to another table.

    Far more frequent is the scenario where I am the only one tipping at a table, and the dealer will make a big deal out of high fiving me for wins, or cheering me on, I suppose hoping the other players will figure out why I'm getting more attention.
     
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