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VP Comp Question - Boyd Casinos

Discussion in 'Comps' started by Tex, Mar 16, 2019.

  1. Tex

    Tex VIP Whale

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    Ive seen numerous posters talking about VP sessions “resetting” at Boyd casinos.

    Does this happen if you cash out yet still leave your players card in the machine? What if I’m at a bar and get up to go to the bathroom? I don’t want to leave a significant balance on the machine. Can I cash out, leave my card in and reinsert $1 to hold my session? Or does the session reset as soon as I hit cash out?

    What about pulling your players card out of a machine and having an active cash balance? Like when you’re at MSS and get a 4oak?
    I have 2 cards so I normally give the slot attendant the 2nd card but I’d still like to know how all this works.

    What about changing games on the machine? Even with a balance and card inserted?

    What about changing denominations in the middle of a session?

    Anyone with knowledge of this that’s willing to educate me with as much detail as possible it would be very much appreciated.
     
  2. Joe

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    Yes, if you pull out your card the session clock resets.
    Yes, if you go to the bathroom or wherever and the card drops out, the session clock resets.

    I don't know if a cash out resets the clock.
    I don't know if changing games or denominations resets and it has been VERY frustrating trying to get a straight email answer from management.

    But, now that you brought it up and the new system has been in place for a couple of months, I'll email the Director of Slot Operations for Downtown Boyd again and see if I can get a definitive answer.
     
  3. meyers67

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    What’s with the “reset the clock” issue? I don’t play at boys but it sounds confusing.
     
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    No offense, but a video poker player chasing partial tier credits with Boyd pays much less per hour and requires way more effort than walking all over the city and picking up pennies.
     
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  5. Tex

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    Thanks Joe.
    I figured removing the players card would cause a reset.
    The other scenarios would be nice to know.

    And I guess this poses another question.
    What exactly does a session reset do? If you’re earning points for $ played it can’t be that big of a deal can it?
    Maybe you get penalized 1 comp point or so?
     
  6. Tex

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    Maybe so but I like playing at the BHB better than any other bar downtown so I might as well understand the comp system completely.
    The alternative is sitting there playing without a card inserted. Then I’m not even walking around picking up pennies.
     
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  7. Tex

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    That’s exactly what we are trying to clarify and understand here.
    Hopefully we can all get educated on this matter.
     
  8. Joe

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    There seems to be some kind of credit or incentive in points the longer a session goes on. I know my points go up my more than my coin-in if we sit and play for 8-10 hours on the same machine. It is still a giant mystery.
     
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  9. Tex

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    Wow
    It’s obviously so convoluted that it would have to be laid out in writing to completely understand it.
     
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    changing games and denoms reset the session.
     
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  11. wasilla

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    Since I haven't figured out how to see how many TC's I've earned W/O pulling out my card, it can be hard to be definitive. I think that as long as I have my card and money in a machine, and I don't leave the machine idle long enough for the insert card message to pop up, that the TC does not reset. I've played over 6 hour sessions taking around 10 breaks in which I cashed out my ticket and immediately inserted a dollar and this did not seem to reset the counter. Some BHB machines seem to kick me off my game if I take a bathroom break w/o money in the machine and some seem not too. When I was playing with one card and pulled it frequently for scratch cards, my TC's dropped significantly. I don't think that the people who leave with a hand in progress will have a problem with a reset. The risk of theft is a different issue. I can't speak to what effect the amount of time played influences TC accrual, but the only factors I've ever noticed are game choice and coin in.
     
  12. Joe

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    @JeJas You know that for a fact?
     
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    Yes, at least for tier credit.
    Not 100% sure about Bconned Points, never paid attention to that.
     
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    When you're grinding 9/6 quarter JoB at Boar's head, it's bad if your card times out because it takes 87-88 max quarter hands to earn one tier credit. Boyd also truncates all fractional tier credits. Even CET doesn't do that bullshit.
    Considering BConned points are only $2 a point for VP, it's less of a big deal at least. But I still can't stand this truncation crap. New systems can internally keep fractional points; their greedy asses aren't bothering.
     
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  15. Electroguy563

    Electroguy563 Over-Fried Gambler

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    It seems that to maximize your comps at a Boyd property, as a VP player you must piss and shit your pants, don't eat, don't sleep, and keep playing until your money is gone.

    Or you can go play slots.

    Boyd will thank you.:poke:
     
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    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    The status benefits of VP grinding are definitely over at Boyd. Mailer comps haven't been severely cut, yet.
     
  17. Tex

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    Screw playing slots.
    I’ve been going to Vegas for 35 years and bet I haven’t ever even spent $100 total on slots
     
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    This is true.
    I could care less about what color my card is but when / if the free room offers dry up I’m gone.
    I’m probably stupid for not moving to the 4 Queens right now with the offers people are posting they receive but I’m still getting 3 free nights with no restrictions, food credit and freeplay so I’ll hang in there a while longer.

    Again just wanting to understand the details about what conditions reset play sessions.

    Especially the cashing out part with players card remaining inserted. I like the idea of cashing out and putting a couple $ back in the machine on bathroom breaks but don’t want to be penalized for it.

    It would be bullshit too if changing the game you’re playing causes a reset. I know some players at the bar will change games when they hit a 4oak so they can keep playing while they’re waiting on the slot attendant to show up.

    Another bad 1 would be if changing denominations resets your session. I’m always moving up and down between .25 to $1 parlaying my winnings when possible.
     
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    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    Changing the game probably causes a reset in counting TC because the amount to earn a TC also automatically changed since every game has a different earning rate.

    Damn I just thought abou this. Quite a few Ultimate X addicts like to switch games and come back to their multipliers later. That would be a bad idea at Boyd.

    The one thing i would be surprised by is if it reset with a cashout. I figured the players card was disconnected with that. If i get to Tunica this week, I will test this at least for Tier credits. I'm a "piss on you" Ruby.
     
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  20. Electroguy563

    Electroguy563 Over-Fried Gambler

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    Same here. I play slots only when with my wife or for shits and giggles. I like to play craps and VP which as far as Boyd is concerned are the two games probably earning the least comps now.

    I still like staying at Boyd properties Downtown but I got no problem playing elsewhere which I started to do on my recent trip in February.