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Table Games UTH Minimums

Discussion in 'Table Games' started by chuck, Jun 9, 2017.

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  1. chuck

    chuck Tourist

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    As most of you know, playing UTH correctly means you will be betting on average 2 times ante on the play bet. That means $20 per hand average on a $5 min table. If you add in trips it is $25. My question, are there any $5 min or even $10 min tables on the strip? If not where can i find lower mins.
     
  2. tringlomane

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    I would assume some CET properties offer $5 ante at least certain times. Hopefully others more familiar with the conditions will have more data.
     
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    topcard Re-Open Vegas!

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    I played it at $5 at Harrah's at around 4-5 PM on a Saturday (5/13).
     
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    TIMSPEED The biggest Degenerate on VMB

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    $5 UTH on the Strip isn't too hard to find.
    If you want $2 UTH, head over to Jerry's Nugget.
     
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  5. The Rumor

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    Have definitely played $5 at Flamingo before at the table over towards the exit to Cromwell
     
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  6. NickyDim

    NickyDim Hockey is life

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    CET has UTH for $5 just about everywhere except for Caesars.

    However, if you want an honest game of UTH,( not the Shufflemaster versionwhere the community and dealers cards are predetermined by the shuffler and dealt first regardless of how many are sitting) go to the Stratosphere . There they shuffle with a regular poker shuffler, remove and CUT the cards, then hand deal patrons and dealers hands, then delivers the flop, turn and river by hand. A fairer game to say the least.
     
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  7. UTHguy

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    Confirm $5 at all CET properties (not sure about Caesars). I've played at all of them. I like the idea of trying out Stratosphere as I've not played there yet.
     
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    Nicky...quick question... doesn't that shufflemaster game still have to be completely random with card distribution?
    I thought that was an NVG law.

    The advantage to a hand-dealt game would seem to me to be comp-related only, as there would be far fewer hands per hour.
    I just can't see how the Shufflemaster version would be less "fair" than than a hand-dealt game.
     
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    It's absolutely a law. But companies can break them if they are greedy enough. I don't think the shufflers do, fwiw.

    I personally would rather play the version where I can peek at a community card easier. Haha
     
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    I've never caught a peek at a community card, but I have spotted a dealer card a few times...but only because they were J, Q or K... and that came in handy a couple of times when I had K-5 or something similarly weak, or Q-8...that sort of thing... I checked instead of 4-playing the hands.
     
  11. The Rumor

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    It's really difficult for me to believe SM would be cheating in these shufflers:

    - They'd get killed by state gaming with fines/bans if they were ever caught
    - Say SM tried to rig a machine. They don't benefit from this. The casino does. They'd still have to tell the buyer at the casino that these things are rigged. That increases the number of people who would have to know this, as well as the number of major companies and people who would be putting their financial wellbeing at risk when the game is already rigged in their favor
    - SM can already sell improved profits to casinos since the games deal more hands per hour, they don't need to cheat

    if I were going to be concerned about cheating, I'd be much more concerned if the machine were in a rinky dink joint ran by people with little lose by cheating rather than a big gaming conglomerate in LV.
     
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    I have found the Flamingo table is at $5 more often than the Harrahs and Linq tables are. Can't comment on Crom/PHo/Ballys/Paris/Rio vs. this
     
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  13. UTHguy

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    Crom / Pho / Ballys have always had a $5 dollar table during my trips over the last 9 months.
     
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    Good to know. Thanks.
     
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    All I know is when there is a missing card those shuffle masters will tell the dealer not only there is a card missing but which card, then it will sort the cards automatically into order for the dealer to spread and see the missing card. It's programmed to know where every card is at every moment during the shuffle. It may still be random, and should be, and still know where every card is and accounted for, but the thought that it could be programmed to arranged the cards in order or ANY order they see fit. They then deal the community cards first (WTF?!?!) and then the dealers cards before the players.. What kind of poker game is that? One that can be predetermined or compromised. I know I'm paranoid, but a simple cut of the deck by the dealer tells me the game is completely on the up and up.

    Station casinos (at least Santa Fe last night) cuts and deals like a normal texas holdem game. Each player gets a card including the dealer, twice round for you hole cards. So does Boyd(at least Suncoast)
     
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    Aria usually has a $10 UTH game.
     
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