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Table Games Uncrowded Craps Table

Discussion in 'Table Games' started by dthoulv, Apr 11, 2017.

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  1. dthoulv

    dthoulv Tourist

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    Good morning VMB!

    I'm taking a trip out with my girlfriend in May and she isn't much of a table games player (likes to play slots). I love rolling the dice and I wanted to ask if anyone knew a craps table that isn't too crowded on a Friday/Saturday night? Obviously Friday and Saturday nights will be the busiest but figured I would reach out to the Vegas experts!

    I feel as if she gets nervous around a big crowd and I could maybe teach her how to play craps on an emptier table. We've stayed at the Tuscany Suites and Casino before and their table gets busy sometimes but it isn't usually packed.

    Thank for your responses!
     
  2. FuzzyDiceCraps

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    Where are you staying or looking to play? Strip? Downtown? Off Strip? Do you have a limit/minimum you're looking to play or avoid?
     
  3. dthoulv

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    Hi FuzzyDice,

    Should've totally included that information before posting - thanks for reminding me!

    1. Ideally it would be a $5 craps table or lower to stretch the bankroll
    2. Location can be anywhere since we have a car
    3. Girlfriend prefers a safer and maybe not EXTREMELY smoky casino environment (smoke can't be avoided and she's fine with that)
     
  4. Toast2

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    Maybe Casino Royale could accommodate that on a Friday night, but $5 tables downtown are almost always packed during that time.
     
  5. FullPay

    FullPay When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro

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    I have the same problem with my wife. You're not going to find empty tables after six pm. I try to let my wife throw around 11am. Then you'll get about fifteen minutes until other players notice the female shooter and join in. I should get paid for the number of empty tables that we've opened up this way.
     
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  6. XKxRome0ox

    XKxRome0ox Low-Roller

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    even the emptiest casino's craps table can suddenly fill up

    if you are looking for a not crowded table...
    my suggestion would be to just go play at an off-peak hour and avoid fri sat nights
     
  7. UKFanatic

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    Wow, that's actually asking a lot. A cheap, not crowded table on the busiest nights of the week. Well, since you have the car, I would avoid DT or the Strip. Try off strip at a locals casino. I don't play often enough at the off strip locations so hopefully someone else can chime in with the table minimums. But maybe M Resort or Green Valley Ranch
     
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  8. ArbyMelt

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    Ellis Island. Never seen a full table there even on weekends.
     
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  9. FuzzyDiceCraps

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    Well as has been stated that's a tall order on a Friday or Saturday night anywhere, but lets see what we can figure out.

    First challenge is getting her familiar enough with craps that she's comfortable going and playing at a table with other people. And craps is definitely the most intimidating game in the Casino for a newbie - its loud, there are (seemingly) a lot of bets and options, chips start flying and since its a social game people can take bad rolls and poor etiquette seriously. My wife and I have been going to Vegas regularly for three years or so now and a couple years ago my wife was just like your gf. She wouldn't go near a craps table. She might stand there with me, but would soon go to play a slot. Now craps sessions are one of the things she most looks forward to (although she's still mainly a slots girl).

    Here would be my suggestion. If you can, during the day, take advantage of a free "craps lesson". Many casinos offer these and they take 30-60 minutes. If you don't want to do that, do what I did to get my wife into it.

    Get her to one of those "Shoot to Win" / Bubble Craps machines. They are always $5 min (and props are often $1). Make sure its the one that allows players to "PRESS THE BUTTON" and not a digital one since it gives a better sense of how shooting works. And then just play with her. Since there aren't dealers its less intimidating, and since its set for a roll ever 30-45 seconds there is plenty of time to explain bets to her in between rolls. MY wife and I did this a lot on one trip. She would only play passline but she was happy to slow roll that way. Then slowly she started getting "riskier" with the occasional Place or Hardway bet. After a few sessions there she was confident enough about the game to try "shooting" for "real".

    On a Fri/Sat night you won't find $5 craps outside casino royale on the strip. And I would avoid CR, it tends to be full with drunk frat guys and bachelor party at the cheap tables. As a result, the dealers are less than friendly. Its tough to predict who will have an empty table Fri/Sat night, since generally hot tables are full and cold tables are empty.

    If you can play during the day, I recommend Harrah's or O'Sheas. O'Sheas is a great place for craps because its generally not smoky, is dead during the day, and will sometimes have $5 table (although weekdsn its normally $10, even daytime), servers are great (they will comp both of you if one is playing - just make sure she has a chip in her rack), dealers are friendly, and if your GF is anything like my wife she'll love the Frozen Bailey's drink.

    If you can leave the strip, M Resort is a beautiful casino (although a bit of a drive), and is more modern with high ceilings, so less smoky. They have $5 craps during the day, but not on weekends. I say that based on my one trip to M Resort 2 years ago. I played $5 craps on Sat and Sunday mornings but it was $10-$15 come evenings.

    Anyway, its a long response and a long way of saying you won't be able to check all the boxes, but its a start.
     
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  10. HardAte

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    THIS. The bubble is a great way to teach someone the game if you can't make the lesson at a real table. Once she learns all the bets and payouts, it will make her A LOT more comfortable walking up to the real table. Unfortunately, table etiquette can only be learned by playing at a real table, but it's pretty simple really. Keep your hands up when the dice are out, don't put cash down until the puck is off and don't say that bad # while the puck is on. Most prefer if it's never said at all.
     
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  11. Its Only Money

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    Friday/Saturday night for her first experience is probably not the best option. The bubble craps might be a real good way for her to get her feet wet. If you don't like that idea I would try to hit an empty table up mid-afternoon. Let the dealers know she is new and they will take care of her. Start her off with the pass line and odds. Work up to a place bet if she wants more action. Center bets can be fun, but be forewarned when she wins those she could fall in love with them, that's what happened to my bride.

    Hopefully you get her on a table that's heats up and she'll fall in love. There is nothing in the casino more exciting than a hot dice table.
     
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  12. FuzzyDiceCraps

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    OMG. So true. First time we started playing bubble craps I think my wife hit the field 90% of the time with tons of 2/12 rolls. She was absolutely in love with the field for about a year. Now she finally stopped playing it. I never play it unless I'm doing Iron Cross (rare), but I will occasionally throw down a chip or two when she's shooting, she still hits it like crazy.
     
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    Second vote for Ellis Island, right off the strip behind Bally's. You might also try the Max casino which is in the Westin behind Cromwell.

    That said, I would give a second recommendation for doing a craps lesson in the morning. I know NYNY, Luxor, and Excalibur have them, I'm sure many other casinos have them as well. Usually around 10am-Noon. It's a great low pressure way to learn craps at a real table. Then she'll be ready for the craziness on Friday/Saturday night.
     
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    Silverton always has a craps table or two open and their table games aren't that busy. You'll definitely have to go off-Strip and off-Downtown. You can also try a full sized Boulder Hwy Casino like Boulder Station or the Eastside Cannery. Sam's Town is usually more crowded. Even Henderson might do you well...the Fiesta Henderson or Sunset Station.
     
  15. God-Speed

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    Like other have said, I would avoid Casino Royale. If she is just starting it could be a turn off due to the smoke and drunk people and even the dealers they have working the tables. Harrah's does have some $5 tables depending on the time Day. They usually open more table around 8:00pm and usually start at $5 then bump up to $10 in a couple of hours. The main thing is to get her on a fun table. It will make all the difference. Have fun, good luck and win big!!!! :thumbsup:
     
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    Play at a bubble machine and just start out with a pass line bet with double odds...
     
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    The only advice I have is to be careful if your gf thinks that anything more than a $25 bet is insane. Long story short, during a very long roll, my wife noticed that I had a $10 passline bet, 5x odds with about either $88 or $110 across and she was going nuts with each roll. Was fun to rub her face in it when I was winning but then the end comes and she just shakes her head at an almost $200 loss. It becomes annoying.
     
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    do you guys really think someone can learn how to play craps from the bubble craps game?
    I tried playing it once on my last trip ... it was SO frustrating. very difficult to get the right bets in, especially in the short amount of time given
    and for me, craps is about finding a fun table where everyone gets into it and cheers for the table together

    the way i learned the game was joining a semi empty table at like 10-11am and asking the stickman questions in between rolls
    and trying to learn 1 type of bet at a time
    there are still a few bets i have never made on the craps table but now i know more than enough to have fun while playing
     
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    Nights are going to be a problem.
    Hard to find an empty table unless playing higher denominations.
    Try early morning/afternoon.
    Paris is a good place to check.
     
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    If you have Craps experience I suggest you print this and practice at home. Invite some friends over and have a Casino Night. Two dice, poker chips and your favorite cocktail is all it takes. Learning the layout and pays will prepare her immensely for live action.



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