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Two Dozen Nights in Vegas: Down Town VP and beer.

Discussion in 'Vegas Trip Reports' started by wasilla, Oct 20, 2019.

  1. wasilla

    wasilla Low-Roller

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    10/29 Tuesday morning at The D

    I went to bed before 1 am last night. My room has a good view of Binion's time and temp display. Since I keep the curtains open, I always know what time it is. I think that weather has been great.

    I woke up a little after 6am and thought it might be a good time to play. The bar was deserted, but the progressives were good. I started playing at 7:00. At 7:12, I drew aces. At 7:33 I drew a 4th queen for $39.50. As I waited for the quads to exceed $33, the queens flashed their mirrors while the lone jack trumpeted. I like to let my cards celebrate. I quit at 7:42 up around $105. I had only run $630 through, but I had plans this morning.

    I walked to the Bonniville Transit Center to buy a 15 day pass. I think it was around $17. I'm normally happy with $1 reduced fare rides, but I believe that this will allow me to use the Strip buses and I want to make some coupon excursions. I also have to move for a 1 day Halloween Gold Coast stay. So I'm getting the pass for convenience. Otherwise, being the cheap bastard that I am, I would buy a day pass on a local southbound bus and then transfer to a strip bus at the transit center. The 113 to Jerry's Nugget pulled into its bay as I exited the building. The trip took about 20 minutes.

    I'm a Jerry's Nugget fan. I like the low roller atmosphere, the eclectic restaurant, the delicious bakery, friendly staff, decent VP, and low roller offers. Mine quickly dropped to $15 FP and a $5 food credit a week, but the first offer was lie $25/$15. I go on their senior Tuesdays so I get 5X points, a $5 MP, and a $10 food credit after 550 points. Last May, I took advantage of their absolutely fantastic new member sign up bonus. Even though I somehow lost $100 on the play, I came out rich in both experience and pastries. I won't repeat my last TR's rave for this place.

    I couldn't download my FP onto NSUD's, so I played it on a 9/6 slow progressive DDB. I turned the FP into $11.25. I started playing .25c NSUD at 9:50. I lost my $11.25 at 9:53 so I went home. NOT! I put my 1st hundred in. I hadn't played NSUD in forever. I tore out the strategy sheet from the American Casino Guide and referred to it frequently. I drew a Heart Wild Royal Flush at 9:59. It doesn't pay a fortune, but is a cool hand. The big payouts are really in the deuces and RF. There wasn't much suspense this session. At 10:24 I was dealt the red deuces and drew the black ones. The $250 in credits took a while to add up. I got a wild heart SF at 10:27, and 4 Jacks with a Deuce for a 5 OAK at 10:29. I got another wild SF at 10:35. I was amazed at the amount of points I earned, and cashed out for a $200 profit. The café couldn't find my senior food credit, so I went to the players desk. The players desk is actually the gift shop. One kind lady told me that I only had 400 something points. When I responded that I had over 2,000, the other kind lady reminded me that she had told me about the point multiplier. I still remember a time when I was smart. The times they are a changing.

    Back at the machine, I keep checking that I am playing Deuces because none are showing up. I get 3 quick SF's. Two are back to back. Ten minutes later at 11:30 I get another wild royal and another 5 OAK at 11:43. I'm pretty sure I have enough points, but I've lost a few dollars from my second buy in and played until I was back to even at 11:50.

    My credit showed at the café, but I could only use one at a time. I ordered a Buffalo chicken sandwich. This was a horrid breakfast choice. I would have found it a bit spicy for dinner, but it was over the top for me as a breakfast entrée. It came in a hoagie roll and had a bunch of salad piled on. I bit into it and was wearing sauce. It turns out that the roll is acting as a bowl for the sauce. I'd have thought that the bread would absorb it all, but their was a puddle of it still in there. That's probably why I found it so hot. Once I saw what I was dealing with, I switched to a knife and fork and things went better. Eventually my water got refilled. I left about a third of the sandwich, but ate most of the chicken and salad. It's possible that I ordered the only thing that I wouldn't like off the menu. I'm saving up my Jerry's comps, but there were other choices for under $10. I was also considering the Monte Cristo and the Western burger. Next time.

    After the meal, I went to use the $5 MP. I was going to play Black, but the roulettes wheel was closed. I bet it on the Pass Line instead. I thought that I had won when the shooter rolled a 7. Turns out that this wasn't a come out roll like I for some reason assumed. He had crapped out. I am 0 for 4 with Jerry's MP's. My smartness becomes an even more distant memory.

    It turns out I could use my $5 food credit right away, so there is now a delicious looking slice of chocolate cake in my refrigerator. Last summer made for messy eating, but this trip I borrowed a 4Q's fork.

    As I exit the casino, bus 113 is pulling into its stop. There is no waiting and I have a transit pass. It's a wonderful day and I decide to walk home. I hear the walk is about 2 miles. I'm not sure if I want to go down Main, or LV Blvd. There are a lot of people milling about and going about their business. Most seem to be homeless. No one bothers me and I decide to head down LVB which is the route I'm familiar with. It gets boring fast when I leave the people behind. A guy walking the opposite direction tries to enthusiastically engage me into paying attention to something in the lot beside us. I smile and silently walk on. A little later someone is warning about watching where you step. I don't know if he's talking to me, himself, or someone else. I decide that a response isn't needed and continue walking. I probably seemed out of place wearing a t shirt and carrying a Jerry's bag. This is more interaction than I expected. There isn't a lot to see on the route the sun felt nice after so much time in casino bars.

    I'm now up $2,000, but there is more Vue Bar gaming ahead. The day is very young.
     
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  2. wasilla

    wasilla Low-Roller

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    Yes it is. They were separate when I played in June. I'm jealous over the RF. I've never hit one in either place.
     
  3. Texas Steph

    Texas Steph A Work in Progress...

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    We will be downtown tmrw evening and Halloween evening, as well. Likely will be hopping around between the D, 4Q, MSS, and DTG.
     
  4. wasilla

    wasilla Low-Roller

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    I'll be playing upstairs at the D tomorrow. I've got a lucky ratty green tee shirt tat says "Life is short. Drink good beer". Say hi if you wander through. I'll try to report where the progressives stand, but you will probably find better paying games at the other 3 places..
     
  5. Philonous815

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    When I played at the D last weekend, the RF and SF meters move at the same rate, and the 4OAK 5-K meter moved at half that rate (i.e. 1 cent for every two cents on the other meters). Too many people were playing for me to tell how much coin in for each 1 cent movement.
     
  6. wasilla

    wasilla Low-Roller

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    10/29 Tuesday afternoon and night.

    After getting back from Jerry's Nugget, I went straight to Vue Bar. I started playing at 1:39pm. I was chasing progressives, but the quad got hit for $42 as did the SF which was around $120. The Royal was around $1,400. I continued playing and lost $100 at 2:14. Quads were hit frequently. I lost another $100 at 2:40. I had played only $920 this session. I drew a 4th queen at 2:50 for $40. I got Q's again at 3:09 for 38.50. After that, the quad progressive rarely exceeded $32. I cashed my $100 out at 3:20. In my room I counted money and discovered that one of the hundreds was actually a misplaced ten, so I was $100 poorer.

    After a long break, I went back down and started playing at 7:55pm. I drew 7,s at 8:11 for $37.25. The quad progressive was too slow to wait on, so I just played on. The RF was over $1500. The SF was around $120 and growing fast. I lost $100 at 9:26. At one point, I calculated the expected EV at around 101% just with the RF and SF. I played fast, but couldn't hit shit.

    A guy 2 seats down hit aces just as the $40 quad reset. I was envious until I realized that he was playing 7/5 JOB and had gotten that $40 for his Aces. He got up and left. I think I might be the only one contributing to the quad now. I lost another $100 at 10:04. 1500 hands after my last quad, I draw a 4th 7 for $31.50. The SF was hit at 10:31. It was worth about .9% at the time. Technically the RF made this game over 100%, but I don't itemize. Besides that, I have never hit a Royal at The D. I quit at 10:36 having lost $25 of my rebuy. I'd played around $2,500 coin this session. I had planned to play $20,000 coin in this stay, but trying to play during optimum times has really slowed me down. Tomorrow's target is $7,000, but it is a soft target. I'll be back here next week.

    I was hungry and looking for something to do. I had just missed the start of the comedy show. I decided to go to Chicago Brewing for beer and garlic knots, but it was closed for maintenance along with Magnolias. I was on my way to Binion's when I realized that I didn't have my card. I had just missed out on Banger's HH and returned to my room. I ate my Jerry's cake for dinner, wrote this and finished the IPA I brought up from the bar.

    Survived another day in Vegas. Another 16 days and I'm outa here.
     
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  7. tringlomane

    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    Wow. Sounds like 0.75% for each meter! If that's the going rate and people didn't adjust for strategy a $500 SF would occur about 1 in 580.6.

    Of course when I played at Vue with @Scott Blair in April, the meters were dogshit. Lol
     
  8. AyDee

    AyDee is getting too old for this

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    Wow, good thing (you appear to be) the man w. the BR plan.
    I'll take the over on 2.5 royals.

    and I guess you answered that other thread, you can survive the walk from Jerrys!

    May the variance be with you.
     
  9. casinokid68

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  10. FABismonte

    FABismonte Tell my wife I am "about even."

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    Who in their right mind would play 7/5 JOB when there is 8/5 Bonus Poker at the same Vue Bar machines?

    Love your adventure and am following along. I will be staying at The D this weekend with buddies from school. Maybe we will run into each other. Do you have a favorite position in the Vue Bar where you like to sit?

    FAB
     
  11. wasilla

    wasilla Low-Roller

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    A guy who then absconds with my $40 progressive!!!
    I've talked to half dozen 7/5 JOB players at the bar. I patiently show them how switching to BP will make them money and let them know that they can play their same strategy. About half of them stick to JOB.

    I use to play on the 2 machines at the far side, but their accessible machines now. Lately, I've been playing the machine closest to the servers station. I try to minimize smoke exposure. It may not like me as much, since it's beat me out of over $400 since yesterday afternoon.

    That + $1,500 RF has been hit, and then hit again.
     
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  12. tringlomane

    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    So the bonus and JoB progressive quads are connected? That surprises me.

    And it's nice to say something because JoB is obviously bad and DDB is also usually a poor choice, but if everyone plays Bonus, then I would worry they might yank it.
     
  13. wasilla

    wasilla Low-Roller

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    BP, JOB, and DDB all share the SF and RF. BP and JOB also share ordinary quads. A local player has told me that the progressives have not always been connected with each other. It makes it all the crazier that people play JOB. An ordinary quad only exceeds $50 for a few minutes a day at most. These guys will never hit a hand higher paying than what they would have gotten for BP. The 8/5 DDB at least has the potential for a greater payout.
     
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  14. AyDee

    AyDee is getting too old for this

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    IIRC there was a story posted about the old progressives, higher ups determined it was going to be replaced (presumably with the current setup), so one lucky winner got all the progressives for just hitting one.
    (we're talking about the D, right?)
     
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    I hope our hero isn't in the hospital for exhaustion after these marathon progressive chases and death-defying walks to Jerry's Nugget!
     
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  16. tringlomane

    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    That was when they were testing the progressive between the D and GG. Afaik that progressive connection was removed earlier this year. In general VP progressives are rarely linked between casinos.
     
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  17. wasilla

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    The walk was easy, but I was apparently tired. I slept through my wakeup call and barely made checkout. Now that I'm newly checked in and I just hit a high quad progressive, I can update. Thanks for your concern! You're obviously a much nicer person than Texas Steph's husband that hit my SF progressive last night.

    I should edit this to make it clear this is a joke. Not only did I not hit the $150 one that he did, but I also didn't hit the $180 one later that night.
     
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  18. wasilla

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    10/30/19 Weds at The D

    I started playing at 9:00am with a $75 ticket and my usual Baily's and coffee. I'm hoping to play $7,000 coin in today. I'd lost $75 by 9:42 having played $810. Since the quad was over $41, I quickly put a new hundred in. I drew 2 more queens for $41.50 at 9:45. The RF had just been hit, so I cashed out at $137.25. Down about $37.50 for the day.

    Breakfast was a ham and cheese omelet at the D grill. Ever since I've figured out that I can order crispy hash browns, I've been happy with their breakfast.

    I started playing again at 12:13pm. I lost $100 at 12:46 after only $650 coin in. The quad is high and I'm playing fast. I don't drink, don't talk, and don't even smile when the quad goes over $40. Someone hit it for $51 at 1:04. I'm not happy about it, but I can relax my play now. I order a Stone IPA and figure that I will play off a few more credits before heading to my room. I'd normally cash out now, but I'm shooting for a 700 point day. A nonstop talker/yeller is playing on my left, and I am finding him annoying. I hit 8's 4 hands later for $31.75. What's an extra $20 in the scheme of things?

    I continue to play and hit 7's for $33.50 at 1:21, J's for $34.50 at 1:57, 3's for $50 at 1:59, J's for $32 at 2:05, 7,s for $31.50 at 2:06, 8's for $32 at 2:14, and 6's for $33.75 at 2:36. None of these are large. I think the progressive money only totals $7.50, but the credits are adding up. I get the Reserved sign for a bathroom break and cash out for $234. A comeback!

    I'm going to highjack my own story for a bit. Last Summer I was playing tired at MSS, went on a mini run, and forgot to take my ticket with me. I was back in a minute or two, but the money, I think $350, had already been cashed. Today I wasn't tired or drunk and put the ticket in my front pocket like I have literally done hundreds of times before. There is a nice drunk guy next to me who says that he will watch my stuff. Ever since I left Jerry's Nugget yesterday I have been losing money and I don't intend to put this ticket back into the machine so that this guy can watch it. When I get back to my machine a couple minutes later my ticket is gone! It's demoralizing. I retrace my steps. Even though I know it's gone, I go through the motions of checking my wallet and other pockets. I ask one bartender to call someone. He doesn't seem to know what to do. The other bartender is on the radio right away. A woman quickly shows up, writes the info down, and says that there is nothing they can do if the ticket has already been cashed. She leaves to investigate.

    I am sadder than $234 warrants and am trying to get a grip. The friendly drunk guy telling me that I should have left it for him to watch isn't helping. The progressives are good and I put a new hundred in. The drunk guy on my right keeps saying that they can't cash my ticket without my player's card. He seems to think that TITO's have names on them and require ID to cash. I don't think he realizes how drunk he is. The yeller on my left is starting to take an interest. He's a guy who asks a question, talks over the answer, and asks the question again. Neither of these guys are responsible for my loss, so I try to just politely tune them out and play on.

    The lady comes back, said the ticket has not been cashed, and asks me to come downstairs. I'm ecstatic. We are waiting in line at the cage and I use the opportunity to quiz her on the process. She tells me that I'm lucky because she had just gotten off break and only she and the floor manager (who had been busy all day) could do this. I ask her how they cancel TITO's. "That's what we're doing now." she says. Shit! I'm no longer ecstatic. We get to a cashier, but she can't find the TITO. The lady figures she wrote it down wrong and leaves me. The wait is long and I restart my mini grieving process. I think it's likely that the ticket has been used by now. I am trying to figure out how to encourage the woman to prioritize cancelations in the future without dumping the responsibility for my loss onto her. The longer she's gone, the more certain that I am that there is a problem.

    She finally comes back with something that looks like a check and she is smiling!! I'm ecstatic all over again. She tells me that someone had used the TITO but moved too quickly for them to catch. She counted out the money and even thanked me for making her day more exiting. I'm surprised that they paid.

    So that 70 minute adventure passed, lets get back to the gambling story. I'm alternating between Alaskan Amber and Stone IPA. The Amber is good, but too sweet for more than one at a time. I restart and am dealt 9's for $5.50 at 3:57. I lost $100 at 4:14. At 4:24 I hit J's for $32.50. I lost $30 at 4:53. At 5:00, I got 7's for $35.25. Someone (Texas Steph's husband) hit the SF and I quit at 5:30 down another $62.25.

    I had gone back to my room and got hungry. I checked the Vue Bar on my way, and found a plus $40 quad. I quickly put money in the machine, but the quad reset before my first hand and I cashed out. I went to Chicago Brewing for a Windy City pizza and a couple IPA's. I lost $20 playing DDB in the process.

    I brought my 2nd IPA back to Vue Bar. I started at 9:13. I lost my remaining $37.50 TITO at 9:30. I lost another $25 when I cashed out at 10:04 to go to Jokestars.

    I get 2 free tickets and this is my first time here. I used to use the LVA's free Riviera comedy club tickets religiously. Tonight was all local talent. Most seemed to enjoy the acts more than I did. The headliner seemed to run out of material, but was decent with his improv.

    I started playing again at 11:42. The SF was $181 and RF was $1,113. I hit 2's at 11:53 and lost the rest of my $75 TITO at 12:19am. I wasn't hitting much. I hit 3's at 12:23. I hit my 700 day points and 2,000 trip points at 12:40 and cashed a $50.50 TITO.

    I was too tired to update the TR so asked for a 9am wake up call. I'm still up for the trip, but I've lost around $800 since I left Jerry's yesterday afternoon. I didn't feel like going out to the Gold Coast for a day. Instead, I saw a GG host, who had given me his card last trip. He agreed to add a day to my stay. I move to GG tomorrow. They have the same progressives on their floor as the Vue Bar. I hope my BP play picks up.
     
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  19. casinokid68

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    Man, I didn't realize that playing video poker was such a serious thing.:poker:
     
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    Not sure I understand. Someone used, as in cashed, your TITO, and left with the money before they could catch them, yet the casino made good on the voucher to you, absorbing the hit themselves? I don't think I've ever heard of that before. You must have been very charming!

    I think you'll find the GG progressive moving slower than the D since when I have played it, every time I was the only one on the entire bank of machines, meaning the meter is pretty much only going to be rising from your own play, or yours plus a couple others that are playing, since it is no longer linked with the D.
     
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