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Two Dozen Nights in Vegas: Down Town VP and beer.

Discussion in 'Vegas Trip Reports' started by wasilla, Oct 20, 2019.

  1. wasilla

    wasilla Low-Roller

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    So the Mikes are cool. There is a sort of cult thing going on. Not only do they make a mean Pena Calada, but the bar and the Mikes have some character. Once, there was a game starting and one of them cranked up the national anthem, stopped serving, and stood with his hand over his heart. I'm not even your typical AK conservative. I'm a cop's kid and even I know that a black man with a cell phone is more likely do get shot than a white man with gun, and that athletes kneeling for the anthem came about as a veteran's suggestion to simultaneously respect the flag and protest this country's short comings. I would have respected him for either action, but to see such a commitment at a downtown casino bar was pretty impressive.
    I've never played a King's bar. I'm usually there on weekends and it feels pretty claustrophobic to me.
     
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  2. wasilla

    wasilla Low-Roller

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    Friday, 10/25 ad 4Q's

    Hi all. The thread seems to be slowing a bit. I'm writing the type of TR I wish I read when I started playing. I certainly know it isn't for everyone and I appreciate those who are following along. I still have a couple of weeks left. If you have some feedback to make this more interesting, I'm happy to evolve a bit. I don't have a smart phone so pictures a re difficult. I send them to friends, but have no clue as to how to include them in a TR. Anyway, lets get to the day.


    I didn't get downstairs to start playing till 9:40. Mike's Bar didn't open till 10:00. There were only a few people playing, but there was maximum garbage. Glasses, napkins, dirty ashtrays, spilled drinks, and discarded trash had been accumulating all night. Fortunately, my preferred machine was vacant and relatively clean. I started playing at 9:45 and ordered a Bailey's and Coffee and a water from the a server. I hadn't solidified what I was going to play today. After yesterday's rollercoaster, half of me wanted to cower with JOB. I did that last Summer, but the math doesn't make sense. Even with points, I would need to use my FP to offset expected losses with JOB. I've been trying to make the transition to 10?6 DDB for a year, but the volatility kept scaring me away. I'm going to try to work through that today.

    I played with my first $100 till 10:28, not great, but seems better than yesterday. I was playing .25 DDB so it slowed the bleeding. I lost my next $100 at 10:53. Too many of the progressives had been hit and I switched to 10/6 DDB. I hit 5's at 11:10 and lost my $100 at 11:31. I got 5's again at 11:41, was dealt 3's WITH a kicker for $400 at 11:55, and 8's at 12:00, I had cashedoutt a $400 ticket and lost the new $100 buy in at 12:42 I was even for the day with 440 points. During these few hours I consumed another bailey's coffee and a Pina Calada.

    I ate some of my left over Pad Thai for breakfast and took a nap.

    I went to Chicago Brewing for what turned into a 10 hour session. I alternated between the progressive .25c 9/6 DDB and 9/7 DB and the .50c 10/6 DDB. I switched based on my guestimate of the games' EV. I suspect that most followers of this TR are already savvier than average, but if some one has questions about this, they should ask. I write these entries to be more informative than entertaining, but try to avoid boring people.

    Some of you seem interested in my drinking behavior, so I'll summarize the 10 hours. I had 2 IPA's, followed by 2 of the specialty tap. I forget the name, but it was a California Common, something like Anchor Steam. This isn't a brewpub, it's a casino restaurant/bar and I think that most of the bar staff don't even know this is on tap. All the beer can come in 22oz servings and this one was good enough for 2 glasses. I then got another IPA and my palate was blown from so much hops. I followed that up with 2 White Russians. I took a large glass of Cabernet to my room to help with this TR entry. I double checked the date Nohitter! Dinner was a Philly Cheese Steak.

    Now to gambling. Remember that I'm even for the day when I start at 3:45. At least I think I was even. My math is fuzzy and I have a $100 unaccounted for. I start playing quarters and lost a $100 at 4:09. At 4:10 I hit 2's a on DB for $121. I'm curious, because it had a kicker, I immediately switched to DDB, and that kicker had just been hit. I'm assuming it is a coincidence. I certainly didn't get DDB kicker money for the hand. Since neither game's progressives were high enough. I switched to 50c.

    I hit 6's at 4:40 and lost a $100 at 5:09. At 5:11 I hit 2's for $200. I cashed a $300 ticket to be even for the day and slid in another $100. I lost that at 5:21, losing about $10 a minute. I lost the next hundred and followed that up by losing the 3'rd $100 at 5:50. At 6:13 I drew 6's and was dealt 3's for $200 at 6:55. I lost a 4th $100 at 7:38. At 8:01 I mistakenly threw away a second pair, but drew the remaining two 5's for $62.50.Fortuitous mistakes aside, I was still several hundred dollars.

    At 8:55, with 8 credits left I had 3 Aces and drew the final ace and a kicker for $1,000. At 8:57 I got 8"s. I cashed out a ticket for $1,000. I lost my new $100 buy in at 9:24, but hit aces for $400 at 9:30. I lost a $100 at 9:49. I lost a second $100 at 10:04 and a third $100 at 10:45. Should I stay or should I go? What would you do? I'm already on record admitting that I don't know when to quit.

    I put in another hundred. I got J's at 10:51, followed by 6's, 10's and then 6's at 11:01. A flurry of quads. I got 9's at 11:18. At 2:31 I lost all that quad money and my buy in. Should I stay or should I go?

    I put another hundred in. I was talking with a group from Fairbanks AK. They had formed their own shared risk VP team and come down together a few times a year. there were members on either side of me playing $1 DDB. The guy to my right hits his machine when he doesn't draw a 4th ace. I silently snicker. Seconds later, he holds a single ace and draws the other 3 with a kicker. The crowd roars! I must be kind of tired and drunk because this still seems incredibly funny to me.

    I come back from the bathroom. My play has slowed, but still continues. I'm dealt 4 Aces at 12:41 and draw a kicker. No crowd roars and I find this funny as well. I continue to play. I'll cash out if my ticket drops to $1,000. I'm talking to the other Alaskans and playing slow, but the credits are sticking to my machine. It gets to closing time, but the Fairbanks folks have been flirting and no one is kicking us out. One by one, we reach our cash out points. I cash out my $1,000 ticket at around 1:40. I've got $1,100 more than I started the morning with. I give up my seat at the bar leaving a lone player gaming on.

    It was a really fun day. I'm thinking of sleeping in tomorrow.
     
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  3. tonysb8

    tonysb8 Low-Roller

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    Loving the detailed vp report! :beer:
     
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  4. 93 Octane

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    Your report isn't boring at all and many of us are silently following along. Personally I'm mesmerized by your meticulous note taking, I could never do it.

    I to am a big fan of Chicago Brewing and while not a hophead they have plenty of taps I find enjoyable.

    Keep posting
     
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    Love IT! Keep it up.
     
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    Not boring at all! Love following along.
     
  7. Rhinoman79

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    Still enjoying. The more beer tasting notes the better ;)
     
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  8. wasilla

    wasilla Low-Roller

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    Alright then. I guess I continue on status quo.

    10/26, Saturday at 4 Q's

    I've only been sleeping a few hours a night. I didn't leave a wakeup call and wasn't surprised when I woke up at 12:30. I was hoping for some more luck and donned my Christmas socks with the hope of enticing the casino into a spirt of giving. I decided to play it safe playing JOB and headed downstairs. I wound up at Mikes' Bar instead.

    I started playing at 3:00 PM with a Baily's and coffee.. A pretty late start for me, but I had already earned the minimum amount of points I needed. I hit 10's at 3:14 and lost my $100 at 3:38. I got 7"s at 3:45 and was back to even. At 4:00 I was dealt 3 aces with 2 kickers. I know people who would hold one of those. I did hit J's at 4:10. At 4:17 I cashed out a $300 ticket. At 4:35 I lost a $100 and ordered my 2nd Pina Colada. I was back to even. What was this game I was playing. I was merely winning or losing tens of dollars per hour rather than hundreds.

    Things changed a bit. I lost hundred dollar bills at 4:53, 5:05, and 5:20. At 5:25 I was dealt a Club K thru 9 Inside SF. The Jack of Clubs filled it out. It's not the best hit because this game only pays 200 credits. As the credits chimed off, my neighbor told me that I shouldn't have held the 9. I suggested that he check his math and that I was happy with the $100. He was adamant that that I erroneously lost my shot at a Royal. He'd go batshit crazy if I switch to DB. (It has some odd Flush holds) He soon lost his credits and left. I drew 6"s at 5:35 but still lost the $100 at 6:13.

    I moved to Chicago Brewing. I hadn't eaten yet so ordered a White Russian. I lost hundred's at 6:42 and 7:02. Hugo's Cellar had said they should be able to find a table for me around this time. I had ordered their Self Esteem, a California Common, to take down with me. I like Hugo's but their beer selection is underwhelming so I bring an IPA with me. I switched it up tonight. I headed down to breakfast at 7:10.

    The place was really busy. The salad was great. The crab and lobster where expensive so I went with the rib eye. It came with garlic mash, sautéed mushrooms, and green beans with red pepper bits. They changed to square plates. I liked the presentation and loved the food. I much prefer the new vegies compared to the old. The steak was even better than usual. My waiter had recommended it. I usually struggle to finish a meal there, but I scarfed down everything but some of the potato. After the Club 55 discount the meal was a little over $50. You can certainly spend more there. The group of Alaskans I met last night had a bill top $1,000. They were grateful for comp dollars. The meal ends with chocolate dipped fruit. I always like the strawberry.

    After dinner, I went back to Chicago Brewing. I wasn't sure how much more I wanted to gamble, but I did want an IPA. I started playing at 8:40. I hit 7's at 8:56 and lost my hundred at 9:12. Of the $1,000 that I had started the day with, I only had a $300 ticket left. I hadn't hit a premium quad all day. It had become a problem. I slid that ticket into the machine. Come on kicker!

    I hit 4's at 9:26 for $200. It was a relief. The middle draw button had stopped working. Eventually I missed a trip because of it. I hit K's at 10:00 and changed machines at 10:09 with a $400 ticket. The .25 DDB progressive was great at this point, but it faded fast. I drew Q's at 10:26 before switching back to .50c. I hit 6's at 10:43 and had 820 credits. At 10:59 I was dealt two 3's and drew the other 2 complete with kicker. Finally! That bumped me up to 1,370 credits, but I was still down over $300. What to do. Was there a Quad draught or a quad frenzy just ahead? It's possible to accumulate 600 credits in a heartbeat with this game. I decided to play until I was even for the day or down to $500. Twenty minutes later I cashed a $500 ticket, grabbed another cabernet, and headed upstairs for this TR.

    This certainly could have turned out much better or much worse. I had decided to risk $1,000 today on a volatile game and lost half of that. Yesterday was certainly more fun, but I'm good with today. I'm not a stranger to this sort of loss, but I'm repacking my Christmas socks..

    I leave my suite and move to the D tomorrow.
     
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  9. NittyOne

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    Nice update. As others have stated many are following along but not necessarily commenting.
     
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  10. bubbakitty

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    Great report thus far. Not sure I can mix all the alcohol as successfully as you have but the IPA is delicious on its own. Hang in there and find that guy who knows what he knows and hold the "9" again....hearts this time!!
     
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  11. Aplayer2

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    Excellent choice........nutritious milk shake to fuel feverish VP playing............please go on I am lovin this!
     
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  12. tringlomane

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    Good work on the grinding! And 3 to a royal over 4 to a SF? I wonder how many more errors that guy made.
     
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    Love your trip reports. Keep it up.
     
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    Garlic knots!! Garlic knots!! Or a burger. Last time I saw a guy and his companion split one with fries. Both made a good choice!! Lucky day for you today!!
     
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  15. wasilla

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    10/27 Sunday morning.

    It's moving day and I haven't started playing yet. My suite at 4Q's is an accessible room and is different than the other suites I've stayed in here. The safe has replaced the microwave. The bathroom layout is what is the most different. The shower is half the size, has a detachable nozzle, and has the water pressure of a fire hose. I didn't need the microwave, bit missed the regular bathroom.

    At Chicago brewing I had 2 pizzas, a Philly cheesesteak, and onion rings. I also ate at Hugo's one night. After the senior discounts, going green credit, and room offer credit I had to pay $17 in comp dollars at checkout. I also had a ham and cheese omelet this morning that cost $7. This morning was the first day I ordered breakfast in the morning. The place was packed. I expected them to just spit out the food, but it was even better than usual. I had to wait a while. I had forgotten to return my accumulation of Chicago Brewing glasses to them, so I used the time to fulfill my promises to do so.

    Checked out the Vue bar at the D. My favorite machine is now an accessible one. The RF was over $1120 and the SF over $100. Not quite +EV, but getting there. The placed was packed. I talked to a host this morning and she upgraded me to a corner King.

    Gotta go.
     
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  16. wasilla

    wasilla Low-Roller

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    10/27, Sunday at The D

    As I said, The View Bar was crowded. My room wasn't ready, so I sat at the only available machine awaiting the call. The RF was around $1,140. Since I don't itemize, hitting it soon wound be advantages. I don't remember the exact SF progressive, around $120. The 4 OAK was mid $30's. I was eager to jump in.

    I should warn those of you that didn't read my May/June TR that I am obsessed with progressives. I record them and chase them.

    I started playing at 1:25 pm. It was too loud, but I grew accustomed. I quickly ordered a coffee and Bailey's and mostly ignored the football screens. The 4 OAK was climbing and credits were growing so I continued playing after the room call came, I hit 4's with a useless kicker for $50 at 1:56, and 4's again at 2:30. At 2:36 I hit 6's for $42. I had been chasing that extra $10 with rapid play and slowed down a bit. Shortly after I hit 9's at 2:42 and 6's again at 2:57 for $34.50. The SF progressive reset. I quit at 3:25 up a hundred with 130 points. I tried a Peroni. It wasn't bad, But I'll stick to the Stone IPA

    I checked into my room. First time in a corner king. Nice enough. The main difference is a couch and refrigerator. Normally I would jump back into playing, but the progressive's aren't cooperating yet. The RF is a tad above $1,200, SF still low, and the 4 OAK's are being hit quickly.

    At 5:30, I find something worth chasing. I hit 3's for $50 at 5:45. The quad I was chasing resets. The bar is packed but most people are watching TV instead of playing. The progressive growth is slow, but I suspect that there are plenty of people who will jump in when it gets higher, This is a little annoying. I quit at 5:55 down $25. I take my Stone IPA to dinner with me.

    Dinner was a Philly Cheese Steak. Usually, I find this a fine choice at their diner. Today, there isn't enough cheese and the meat is too fatty. The fries start off lukewarm and are too cold to enjoy after a few minutes.

    The progressives are still too low after dinner, so I took a walk. It occurred to me that, other once to retrieved my watch from MSS, that I hadn't left 4 Q's my entire stay there. So I'm walking. I will be staying at DTG in November and I want to confirm their games. They were a lot better at DTG, but I don't want to only play a couple hours there or low play the D. I return and start playing again at 7:00. Someone had hit the Royal, but not the SF. Quads made it worth playing. At 7:11 I was dealt 8's for $38. Shortly after I quit. I turned my $50 FP into $40 and took my Stone up to my room.

    After watching TV and surfing the net, I decide to check out the bar again. Conditions had changed. It was less crowded, the SF had climbed, and the Quad was around $40. EV was over 100%.

    I jumped in at 10:25. I was playing fast to grab the quad before my competition. I was thirsty, bit didn't even take time to open my bottle of water. I hit 4's at 10:32 and 2's at 11:01. I lost my hundred at 11:35, but the EV was over 101%. I hit 3's at 11:36. Even though it payed more than the progressive would have, hitting the progressive would have been more satisfying. I lost $100 at 12:19. I had been playing close to 2 hours and lost $200 chasing a $50 quad. Genius. I had been playing at a sprint and was getting fatigued. At 12:48, I hit aces. I was dealt queens at 12:42 for $53.50. I had gotten 293 points in 2 1/2 hours. Every point represents $10 coin in.

    I slowed down after that. I took breaks when the quads reset. I had lost about $65 at 1:24. I cashed out and put in a new $100 to help with my accounting I hit a quad for $39.25 at 1:38. I had tried to let the quad climb to $33.01 before jumping back in. This would take several minutes and someone hit it before it reached my target. I lost $100 at 2:24. Hit 9's at 2:28 for $38., 5's at 2:44 for $35.25, and was dealt a 4 card royal at 2:47. I didn't hit it, but I hadn't been dealt 4 to a RF for days. I was dealt 4's at 2:48.

    At 2:55 I was dealt a flush that included a 4 card inside SF. The SF was around $200. I figured it was close, but kept the flush. I was really tired, but wasn't going to leave until that SF was hit. The RF was over $1,100. I did some calculations and found the game was above 100% even without the quad progressive. I was playing alone now. Turns out, you can lose money in + EV games when you don't hit the progressives.

    I was nursing a glass of merlot, but it was a little too acidic. Turns out they have Alaskan Amber on tap and it is a great early morning beer. The cleaning staff came and went.

    At 3:04, I gave up a flush for a 4 card RF. At 3:36 I lost $100. Someone else had joined me and was pulling down quads. At 3:51 I hit 6's for $32. It was $40 a few minutes before. I was dealt a straight with a 4 card inside SF at 4:12. The SF was at $224. I sacrificed the straight, but didn't connect. New people were straggling in now. A guy behind me was periodically belting out pieces of the Bob Seiger song. A cleaner broke something. A guy who looks like he's been up all night starts playing. Perhaps he's a mirror. Another guy was randomly yelling in a way that I assume was meant to show how exciting it was too be in a deserted casino in the middle of the night.

    At 4:16 I was dealt another 4 card inside SF. I drew the 9 of spades fore $224.50. I quit at 4:22 with $700 in my wallet. It's the same amount I left my room with early this afternoon. The gambler he broke even.
     
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  17. tringlomane

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    Nice work grinding the points overnight!
     
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    I need a nap after that run.
     
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    Wasilla,
    I'm not sure if I can explain how exciting I find your trip report. I find myself being almost anxious as I read.
    Thank you.
     
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  20. wasilla

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    That.... is an absolutely huge compliment. Thank you!
     
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