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Trying to improve MGM offers with 1 day of slot play

Discussion in 'Comps' started by Bookoo1, May 18, 2012.

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  1. Bookoo1

    Bookoo1 Low-Roller

    Oct 13, 2010
    San Diego,CA
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    Like a lot of slot players I've played and stayed and CET properties for the free rooms.

    For about a year now,I've been thinking about switching things up and trying mgm properties.I usually play a little at the B for maybe an hour each trip,so my offers are just barely discounted rates.I'm not ready to pay for a room yet,but I'm ready to take most of a days budget of my bankroll and use it at only mgm casinos.I love free rooms but the main reason I'd like to do this is the fact that mgm offers free play and f&b credit,also I've heard that express comps are easier to earn than CET's bonus points.

    So basically my question is if I take $500-$800 for strictly slot play,to use at mgm props,would my offers get drastically better?
    Or will it take more than one day of play?or a bigger bankroll?
    Also,I'm well aware of their specialty slots,and plan to avoid them.

    Any thoughts or experiences will be appreciated.
  2. JosieCat

    JosieCat VIP Whale

    Dec 10, 2011
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    I can only give you my experience. My first solo trip, I didn't have an MLife account because we always just used my BF's card. So I stayed at Bally's, because I had a total rewards account and could get free rooms there. I made one trip to Bellagio, dropped about $900 - and that's it. I didn't go to any other MLife property on that trip. I did start getting offers for free room/free play from the Bellagio.

    If you are going to do it - do it in one day, so your ADT is higher - and do it at the place that you would want to get free rooms at.
  3. buffalo

    buffalo Low-Roller

    Jul 22, 2011
    Too far from Vegas
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    Here's my guess. If you take $800 to MGM and get on an average paying slot (86%(?)) and play till it's gone, you could reasonably expect to have $4000 coin in. This doesn't account for a streak of good or bad luck. Maybe research lower volatility slots, as slots like Wicked Winnings II can munch $800 without batting an eye (it might also give you a major handpay).

    I'm guessing you will get some decent offers with that coin in, provided it's on one day only - it's worth a shot. Don't play CET with your card the day you leave, maybe that's the day to try to play MGM if you have time.

    Just my opinion so take it for what's it's worth.
  4. Auggie

    Auggie Dovahkiin

    Jan 8, 2009
    Burnaby, BC
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    If you are going to do one day of heavy play to try and get better offers then do it at just one property, don't be casino hopping.

    Which property? Depends on what you are after... your play might get you a free room for 2 nights at Bellagio on your next trip. If you want free play, some food and beverage credit and 3 or more nights you would be better off going to one of their other properties like NYNY, MGM, Luxor or Monte Carlo.

    They might, they might not.

    The casinos don't just look at your play from your last visit, but instead will look at your gaming history going back a couple of years.

    It also depends on other factors like what you are playing and for how long. If you go and play just $10 per spin slots and burn through the $800 in thirty minutes that will actually register less with them than if you played slots at $1 per spin and played for seven or eight hours and still had the same outcome of losing the whole $800 to them.

    And while $800 seems like a fair bit of money, in the end its not likely to even get you to "GOLD" within the MLife program - if you play to total ruin at a reasonable level for your bankroll you should be able to cycle your money through 7-12 times... so you are talking about $5,000-10,000 in coin through, which is about 50,000 tier credits (you need 75,000 for "GOLD").

    And of course we need the usual disclaimers of "Don't play for comps" here. It just doesn't really add up if you go and give them $800 just so on your next visit you can get a $110 room for free for three nights and $150 in free play and $75 in F&B credit... you'd still end up a few hundred bucks short in the deal than if you instead just paid for it yourself.

    Also, even though you don't have any offers currently, it doesn't mean they don't want you to come stay with them. You can try calling and they will check your history of play and let you know what all you qualify for, and that includes any free play or resort credit.

    If you have your sights set on Bellagio you might have a problem there since as one of their their top properties it requires more play to get stuff out of them than some of the lesser casinos... and so again I would suggest calling around to some of their other properties like NYNY, MGM Grand, Monte Carlo or Luxor.

    All that said I will add that when it comes to these loyalty programs its really hard to tell what really makes these things work.

    My wife and I usually have a budget of $200/day each and we've gotten four nights comped in a suite at Monte Carlo with $150 in F&B credit and $250 in free play... the last few trips we've stayed at Aria (not in a suite) and with some F&B and the same $250 in free play.

    And its not just MLife: in 2009 we were Total Rewards gold members, typically earning a combined 800-1200 TCs a year, and yet they gave us an upgraded room 5 nights comped at Harrah's over the 2009/2010 New Years Eve weekend... but in 2011 we upped our play and made it to Platinum within the Total Rewards program (I say "we" because my wife plays on my card) and yet when we went to Las Vegas back in mid April (after Easter long weekend) even being Platinum we could only get a basic room comped for 3 nights at Harrah's.
  5. 4dazeoff

    4dazeoff Low-Roller

    Sep 19, 2010
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    here is my experience. went to visit a friend at aria in the summer of 2010. no prior mlife card. got a card at aria and played through maybe $250-$300 with a net loss of about $40. immediately started to get offers directly from aria for discounted rooms, $79 weekday, $129 weekend. steady offers until january 2012 got a 2 night free room offer w/ $50 freeplay and free buffet. so happens we were going in february so we booked. room was awesome, service was great and we really enjoyed it. made it a point to cycle some $ through the slots to try for future offers. found one machine that we had some decent sessions on and for the 2 days we were able to cycle through about $3200-$3500 with a net loss of about $450. I also played 1 craps session at a $10 table (didn't even present my players card as i was betting table minimums) and left up about $300. So, total loss was only about $150-$200.
    We have gotten 4 seperate offers for comp rooms and freeplay (from $75-$100) from aria since then and will be going back for some comp nights in august! we are pretty low rollers so we are happy with the free rooms for this amount of play. i think if you concentrate your play at the property you want to stay at, you should have no problem getting at least a free room and minimal freeplay. good luck!:beer:
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