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Trip Recap (10/3-10/6) and Craps Summary

Discussion in 'Vegas Trip Reports' started by WINGSFAN2012, Oct 12, 2017.

  1. WINGSFAN2012

    WINGSFAN2012 Low-Roller

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    My Trip Report

    I arrived the evening of 10/3 and right away saw the effects of the Mandalay Bay shooting as the airport was crawling with police. The police presence was everywhere for my stay and I was more than fine with that. As one of the pit bosses at New York New York told me-"we are not going to let one madman shut down America's playground"! Amen to that! Also picking up my bags at baggage claim all of the "Vegas Strong" logos appeared where normally the current Cirque shows and concerts would be promoted. It was an erie feeling.....

    My wife was already there for business and we were staying for the first time at the Vdara Hotel and Resort. The Vdara is amazing, clean and new and screams luxury resort. Within several hundred feet of the Aria, Vdara has no casino. The place is very classy and opulent. A great pool. Not a party pool but lots of skin showing. They definitely seem to cater to the 25-45 crowd with money to burn. I would stay here again in a second. We ate at their breakfast café Thursday morning and it was good, nothing great, but the service was above average as well.

    Now onto the Craps.........some of this I have stated in other posts, but here it is

    1) Wednesday morning took the tram from Vdara to the Monte Carlo. The walkway is much better than it was with some walls and lights now fully furnished. A long way to go but much better than when I was here in May.

    2) Walked to NYNY around 10:00am on Wednesday the 4th and found only 1 craps table open. It was a $5.00 table that was pretty crowded. Once I gave my MLife card to the pit boss I asked about the "fire bet". He said that all MGM properties have removed the fire bet and it is no longer offered. After that surprise I started with safe bets (pass line, odds, some "6' "8" place bets) but got hammered as I heard "7 out" too often. After the first hour I was already down $85.00. As we all know, when a table is cold no strategy works unless I would have bet the "don't pass" line. Lets just say this was my only session at NYNY. I did notice that night they had 2 $5.00 tables that night at 10pm when we walked through.....

    3) After the bad start at NYNY, I walked back to Monte Carlo where about 1/2 of the normal casino floor is open now. Construction noises were heard over the nice "classic rock" music that MC always plays. Only one Craps table open around noon and it was a $5.00 table. Stepped up next to a Craps pro from the UK who was very nice. After a couple of bad shooters (including me) an engineer from Florida and his buddies at the other end had their dice sets working pretty good as I made up for my losses at NYNY and probably after that about $100.00 up after 90 minutes. A nice recovery as the guys at the other end hit plenty of 6's and 8's as well as points. After 2 quick "7 outs from others" I walked away with a nice stack.

    4) After seeing the Brad Garrett comedy show at MGM (big thumbs up) we decided to head back and take the rental car and play off strip at Ellis Island. What a small old school hotel and casino. I was immediately struck by the friendly vibe from all at Ellis Island. A very welcoming place! We went back both nights. My wife shot a lot better than me and we won some nice money each night. Per the pit boss, the ONE craps table they have opens at 2pm and closes at 2am. It is a $5 table until midnight when it switches to $10.00. I was then shocked when the stickman said to my wife and I "don't go, you are grandfathered in at $5.00 for as long as you stay". I gave a big huhhhh? As a guy who plays local casino's and the strip this was the first time I ever heard of anything like that? I highly recommend Ellis Island as the vibe is very old school but friendly and believe it or not, not a packed craps table. A couple clueless/drunk players did not ruin the fun we had there.

    5) I played the Aria a little on Thursday and Friday morning awaiting for the Astros vs Red Sox playoff games to start. I found out from that pit boss that the tables are never lower than $10.00. I played around 11am and it was $10.00 and between both mornings I was close to breaking even. I must say I love the open sports book at the Aria and not to be missed is the pizza place right outside the sports book. Top quality NY style pizza!

    6) I went back to the MC for a little late Friday morning action before we left. $5 table again and up about $60.00 for a quick 30 minute session. A cute woman who just took the "free craps" class came over and right away hit 3 points and some numbers in between. Even the pit boss who held the class was rooting for her and the table. All in all no monster wins but I came back money ahead which is always good. I can't wait for next trip probably in January........
     
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  2. TRN

    TRN Poker Enthusiast

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    Nice job at the dice and nice comebacks too.

    I think it's pretty standard for most/all of the casinos to allow you to stay/play at the lower limits if the table limits go up while you're playing - this holds true for all the games I've played and in nearly all the casinos I've played in.
     
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  3. DRPinVA

    DRPinVA Low-Roller

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    Nice recap Wings!! I guess I'm a little surprised that you found so many $5 tables...I was thinking they were becoming more of a relic, at least on the Strip. Appreciate all the info...looking forward to lots of dice action in a couple weeks... I'm with TRN - with a couple of exceptions, I have always found that you are grandfathered in when table limits change, only once or twice have I that I recall that not being true.
     
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  4. tringlomane

    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    Nice report!
     
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  5. WINGSFAN2012

    WINGSFAN2012 Low-Roller

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    This was a first for me ever. At the local Chicago (Rivers) and Milwaukee (Potowatomi) area casinos there is no "grandfathering in". Back in May when the NYNY raised their limit up to $10.00 I had to comply as well.

    It was a pleasant surprise and just added to my liking of the Ellis Island experience
     
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  6. WINGSFAN2012

    WINGSFAN2012 Low-Roller

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    Yeah see again, new to that whole "grandfathered" thing, just not common at all where I play close to home......

    Yeah was great to see all the $5.00 craps on the strip. Very common in the AM and afternoon as I saw. Now NYNY on a Wednesday night having two $5.00 tables was amazing and good to see.

    Like I mentioned earlier, the Aria pit boss just said no matter how busy or not, they never drop below $10.00 craps tables. Each morning they had 4 tables open. 3 were $10 tables and 1 was $15.
     
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  7. WINGSFAN2012

    WINGSFAN2012 Low-Roller

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    I did not play but walked through the Bellagio. I am curious if during the day they have $5.00 craps?
     
  8. TRN

    TRN Poker Enthusiast

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    I've seen it down to $10 at B during off hours weekdays... not sure if it ever sees $5.
     
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  9. rasmus12b

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    Grandfathered in is normal at pretty much every Vegas casino - when they up the limits you can keep played at the original limit as long as you please.
     
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  10. FullPay

    FullPay This one time, in Vegas, when I was drinking...

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    Of course I learned the game in Vegas, but mention ‘grandfather’ outside of Vegas and they’ve never heard of it.
     
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  11. WINGSFAN2012

    WINGSFAN2012 Low-Roller

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    my point exactly! lol