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Video Poker Transition from DDB to BP or JoB?

Discussion in 'Video Poker' started by PSM, Mar 3, 2017.

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  1. PSM

    PSM High-Roller

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    I have a little over two months before my trip and I'd like to work on learning strategy for a less volatile game than DDB, which is really the only VP game I've ever played since I started going to Vegas and local casinos over 10 years ago (when I lived in CT).

    Being that the four of a kind payouts are more similar for BP than JoB when compared to DDB, would you say that learning the strategy for BP might be easier/quicker for me than switching to JoB? I'll obviously be doing a lot of separate research but I love conversations on the forums.

    Thanks!
     
  2. marksind

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    JOB and BP strategies are similar enough that unless you are a real stickler you can follow the same for both. BP is my "go to" game because more casinos offer decent (8/5) pay tables for it at the quarter level than JOB (most don't have 9/6 anymore). Many casinos discount the comp value of play for 9/6 JOB but still give full credit for 8/5 BP. Also, even though 9/6 JOB has only about half the volatility of BP, it's just too boring to play for long stretches. Face it, if you're playing for entertainment a certain amount of volatility is part of the excitement. Neither is anywhere close to DDB.

    I like to switch around between games while playing. In October in Vegas we were playing BP at a bar when I said to my wife I was switching to DDB for a few hands. The pay table for DDB was horrible, but I figured I give it a shot. About three hands later I got four aces with the kicker. Paid $500 instead of the $100 it would have paid on BP. So just know when to switch (kidding of course)!
     
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    I have ~3"x4" strategy cards for each game and paytable, so switching games is never a problem. That said, the high volatility games are slower for me, since it takes longer to look up the proper play, for some hands. A good middle-ground game is NSUD, which gives a nice mid-payout for 4 deuces. And it's fun. The Cromwell has them in 25c.
     
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    from DDB to BP & JOB, most strategy differences would be inside straits, aces with high card and aces up (2 pair)
     
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  6. PSM

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    All good info, thanks. I'll be staying at Mirage, so it sounds like whichever one I can find that has better pay tables is the one to go with when I'm there being that strategy is very similar (and I won't be playing perfect anyways). I have the Bob Dancer trainer (Video Poker for Winners), so I'll focus on JOB along with my DDB brushing up.
     
  7. The Rumor

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    I dunno your stakes but it's not that far from Mirage to the good 25 cent single line machines at Cromwell
     
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  8. PSM

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    You mean DDB or JOB? I completely forgot that Cromwell even exists. It wasn't there yet on my last trip!
     
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    Neither. NSUD, 6 of them, just inside the main doors on the LVBlvd corner.
     
  10. PSM

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    Ah, I'm not so familiar with that game but from my quick search, looks like it's pretty low variance and a lower budget could last a while? Maybe I'll focus on that instead since it's definitely walking distance for me.

    I'd like to learn everything but I just don't have time to go crazy with the training software. Still have to keep brushing up on DDB so I really only have time to start to learn one more game.

    Is this a game where you have to play 5 or however many lines per spin to have it pay off on the better hands like with DDB or can you play one per line? Forgive my ignorance, I'm completely new to everything except DDB.
     
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    um, unless the machines have changed recently, they are multi game.....including 99%+TWB, JoB, BP, DB and more.......but be forewarned, you will hear "c'mon, hit the button!" over and over, hope you can tune that out!:D:confused::D
     
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    Phantom is correct, they are multi games. I played there about 24 hours ago. 100% it had full pay jacks or better as one of the games.

    People remember NSUD because it is the best paying game on the machines.
     
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    The Cromwell machines are all single line only.
     
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  14. PSM

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    Cool, thanks for all the info.
     
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    Switching from DDB to either of those games? I will bet a dollar that you are bored shitless after 10 minutes, and go right back.

    Especially when you end up with premium hands!


    Good luck!!
     
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    NSUD is the best option in terms of return, but 9/6 Jacks still exists there. As well as 9/7 Triple Double Bonus. No DDB at all though. Interesting experiment, imo. At least it's lasted!
    You need to bet 5 for a full royal payout on these. And on Triple Double Bonus, you really need to bet 5 because they will short the Aces w/kicker payout too.

    Also these games earn points 5 times slower than a standard machine.

    He could try 9/7 Triple Double Bonus (99.58%). Strategy is very different though...
     
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