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Tipping a Host

Discussion in 'Comps' started by VegasDuffy, Feb 10, 2020.

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  1. VegasDuffy

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    Hi all -- Looking for some thoughts on tipping a host. I've had the same host at Bellagio for three years or so and he always sets me up with free play and food and bev well above the corporate offer. Lately I've started tipping with gift cards for relatively small amounts ($25, $50), but I'm feeling like maybe I should be tipping more. I'm curious about what others do.

    Is there a general percentage that I should consider tipping, should I tip at all, etc.? Thanks for the thoughts!
     
  2. VegasBJ

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    Yes, in my opinion, you should tip for what he is doing for you since it exceeds the corporate offer. There have been a lot of previous threads on this same topic, and the responses vary wildly, from you are crazy for tipping at all, to amounts of up to several hundred dollars. In the end, you have to do what you are comfortable with.
     
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  3. Hitmaxbet

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    When ya know what you play--How much you play --Figure out your coin in --etc
    Most of time your screwed ,I bitch and I get what I want as I don't go to a casino to be Frugal on my betting
    I hit em hard and expect alot in return..

    So you know my answer The Hell with the tip....

    A Gambler is a Gambler not someone to make a Host happy
    They are there to keep me Happy
     
  4. VegasDuffy

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    Thanks! And thanks for letting me know about the other posts, I searched for previous posts, but must have used the wrong search terms.
     
  5. JulianC

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    If staying on an offer requires me to book through a host (who is not specifically my host), I generally see no reason to tip that host -- that is, unless that host goes some amount beyond the exact terms of the offer to improve the quality of my overall stay. I have booked this way in Vegas three times, at three different places. In fact, it was for portions of my three most recent Vegas trips (the portions that were not Wynn, MGM, or CET). From two of those three hosts, I was told to "let [them] know when I would next be in town" (code for "You can now consider me to be your host here." ...?) -- but none of them really provided major "above and beyond" services. None sought me out on the gaming floor. One of them I might have tipped, but she was off-property (but still quite responsive on a very busy weekend) for the entirety of my stay (just one night).

    If I am working with a host on duty to get comped a bit on the back end, I see no reason to tip that host that time -- and might only tip that host in the future if that person steps in to become my host.

    (An aside. A certain host on duty who reviewed my play at the conclusion of my most recent stay at a major flagship Strip resort might deserve a tip from me next time. It was my third stay at this particular resort, and this same host was the one who reviewed my play at the end of my stay all three times. This time, though, I spoke with her on the day before checkout, and she both gave me some key statistics for my play thus far for the trip and also confirmed for me the thresholds and metrics they look for when it comes to back end comps. I was just a little short of the thresholds at that moment and made adjustments to my play behavior for the rest of the trip that worked out quite well to get me within range. I really should have charged more to the room.)

    If I booked through a host, and my booking was a package put together by the host that was not strictly a corporate/marketing offer, I would tip without question as long as what the host put together for me was better than what I could have booked myself. This one is important because I have seen a few too many accounts of hosts (maybe "hosts" in quotes) booking lesser offers for unwitting guests just to save their employer the marketing costs and to line their own pockets with the commission from their guests' play.

    My value to the casino is not yet at a high enough level where expensive bottles of Scotch would be looked at as a lousy, lazy, cheap throwaway attempt of a host gift.
     
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  6. rooster42000

    rooster42000 Brady, The Goat , repeat LVI- #8

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    Nice gift card. :peace:
     
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    I only tip a host that is specifically mine and then only IF they are providing something significant over the marketing offer or their level of service is above and beyond. I've mentioned my Plaza host several times. I do give her a gift card as a token of appreciation on every trip. Number one reason is her attentiveness and the fact she checks me in the night before arrival to insure I have a suite (stocked with Diet Coke) upon my early morning arrival. That alone is almost priceless!
     
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  8. alexm

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    I tip only my host and only if he goes above and beyond what would normally be expected. I tip cash in an envelope, a percentage of the perceived value of what I am getting. In 9 stays with my current host I have tipped 4 times.
    My general offer is any 5 nights comped at any top tier property (my home is Caesars AC even though my host is Ballys AC) and additional food credits and free play day dependent. I know that my play also typically covers any food my wife and I eat as we like the Diamond lounges and usually only charge one or two nice meals to the room over a 4 day stay. If he simply covers those charges and books my room I generally don't tip.

    The 4 times I tipped:
    1. He booked a second room for us at a different property for 3 nights, allowed me to use the diamond card for no resort fees (so 6 total comp nights 3 me 3 wife all no resort fee) and covered all of our food and beverages for 4 people over that trip. I tipped him 100 bucks or about 10% of what I perceived the value to be.
    2. He covered 4 spa services (2 wife and 2 for her sister) on a trip in addition to meals for 4 people over a weekend. Same $100 tip
    3. He booked my wife into bingo games and added offers to her account that she did not have available (gift card) since he knew she would be there. $50 tip which was about 50% of the perceived value, but I thought it was a nice gesture since I didn't ask.
    4. Suite upgrade and booked us a reservation at a sold out restaurant on our first hosted trip with him 100 dollars or about 20% of the value. I thought it was pretty cool at the time and the people we were with thought it was kind of a baller move to get reservations when the restaurant was sold out.
     
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  9. JaDubya

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    I tip every once in awhile. As people have said, did the host do something exceptional? Recently I got a new Mandalay host. Sight unseen she comped us 4 concert tickets just because I asked. I tipped her $100. Was that low? Maybe. I ended having to mail it to her because she wasn’t available throughout my stay.

    I think as long as your host shops at the place you get the gift cards from, they should be happy. Not everyone tips.

    One time I tipped my limo driver $15 for the ride from McCarran to MGM - because I only had 3 fives and the rest were $100 bills. The Limo driver thanked me & laughed, saying I was a better tipper than....(famous basketball player). Just saying.
     
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    My host at Aria has been great, she always goes above. I generally, not always, get back end comps. I give her a handwritten card and $200 in gift cards to a company everyone can use. This relates to about 10% of perceived value of my rooms. I feel anymore would seem more like a bribe, if comps go up, I will stay in that 10 range
     
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    In thirty years of going to Vegas and AC I have only tipped one host, and that's my current host at Wynncore. The CET host I had 5 years ago was very good and frankly, I regret not tipping him a hundred or two as he was great at making my 50th birthday trip to Caesars special. He retired from CET a few months later.

    My CET host in AC is always very responsive but, given my level of play, I don't feel like he does anything special. Indeed, some folks on the VMB get comped meals at CET hotels in AC and it's been years since I have had something of significance comped on the back end in AC. I don't charge much in the first place but hearing from others on the board and say, from fellow players chilling in the pool at Caesars in the summer, tells me that my host, while a great guy, probably uses the fact that I am undercomped but don't ask for much to help him with more comps for other players that play less than I do. (My conversation with a Diamond player last summer is one anecdote.)

    I recognize that a host/customer relationship is a business relationship and I know we should never get wedded to a property or person, but my Wynncore host is truly amazing and I ALWAYS feel well taken care of. Now, I know on his end that it is his job to keep me happy given how much I play (and some trips how much I lose), but I do know that any trip where it's not been solo and where I am trying to take care of a number of people with second rooms, or lots of tickets to a show, etc. that he goes to bat on getting approvals, sometimes from a Wynncore VP. But, he never makes me feel like he is working hard for me but more like he is doing something that he is pleased to do. Despite his young age, he really has a special way about him. So, yes, I tip him what I think is pretty well, not crazy, but I think well. And the amount will vary. A quick solo trip for me is going to be a smaller tip than the mega trips that I take once or twice a year.

    I thought that the 10% of value number that @alexm mentioned was interesting and, as a general matter, might be a good way to look at it. But if I used that 10% amount that in theory could be a big. e.g., four figure, number. At the same time, when I factor in my heavy play and THEO and sometimes actual losses, what my host does for me may be somewhat in line with that level of play and those losses. What I don't know is though he often does a lot for me, how much of that is based on my heavy play and how much is his going above and beyond.

    Regardless, each and every trip I feel like he does go above and beyond, having to do less when I am solo and more when I have a guest, like my mom, but still making each trip -- starting with the pick up from the airport and the amenity in my room -- special.
     
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    I've done similar things, but not for a host -- around Lunar New Year I was here with a friend, and we went to Lemongrass at Aria. The hostess absentmindedly said it would be at least 2 hours. She then looked up, saw me, and said, "Oh! [44inarow]! Give me two minutes, we'll get you seated." It was pretty great.
     
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    There was a 2014 LV Sun article (attached) where tipping is discussed. Again, whatever you tip that they can actually use is probably appreciated.
    https://lasvegassun.com/news/2014/apr/13/confessions-casino-host/

    I also remember my host saying something about reporting tips to her manager (I don’t remember if there was a $ threshold).
     
  15. Vegasgal

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    I have had the same host for about 5 yrs.He treats me right,and I always leave a Benji for him.
    When he arranges for an extra room for my relatives I expect them to give a benji for him in addition to what I would leave.

    This is business.I never pay for anything,but I gambel a far amount.
     
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    @Flowers That makes total sense. I guess I would reevaluate if my number started getting very high. Like you, I always make it a point to know what my play should get me. I am on that weird cusp where my play gets me my room and some food but not guaranteed food or resort spend. My play at the trip, assuming it stays in line is where my host takes care of more, but I am always ready to pay. My expectation is that our play in AC covers our room and food, usually 250 or less. ( I play mostly Video Poker and generally 10k coin in per day, 1k TC usually over about 8 hours of play time) my wife plays tables mostly 30$ average on Pai Gow and 10-15 dollar per hand carnival games. She is good for 6-8 hours per day of table play. Any slot, VP or sports plays go on my card as well. When our host comps the extras (spa services, group meals, adds offers to her account etc) we tip, but we have never approached more than maybe 1k in perceived value. If it started to push 10k in value I would definitely reevaluate.
     
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    I do $25 amazon gift cards in a thank you card.
     
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    My host at South Point has booked comped rooms for me the last several years. I give her a $25 or $50 gift card and maybe a box of candy. Small price to pay for free rooms.
     
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    No tip. You're getting what you PAID for ie your gambling
     
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  20. VegasDuffy

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    Thanks, that's exactly what I did my last trip!
     
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