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The Plaza, The D or Cal/MSS?

Discussion in 'Downtown Hotels' started by VegasLover8, May 8, 2017.

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  1. VegasLover8

    VegasLover8 High-Roller

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    Staying a long weekend at the end of September/beginning of October for 3 nights. Check in Fri and checkout Mon.

    Which casino/hotel would you choose? I go once a year for football season. Since moving to the strip a few years ago, I have only visited downtown for 5 or 6 hours. Prices include all taxes and resort fees

    Plaza - $370
    The D - $338
    The Cal/MSS - $336

    The above prices are what I was quoted for casino rate for my dates after calling/speaking with each hotel. Data points - The Plaza is 10% off what I would get if I booked online on my own. The D is about 25% off what I would get if I booked online. The Cal and MSS were the same price as BConnected.

    Items to consider/I want and not necessarily in any order:

    1) Good JoB or Bonus VP - preferably at a bar for faster drink service. I probably spend 90-95% of my gambling on VP.
    2) $5 craps and BJ on weekends – I know this is might be unlikely
    3) Aiming to get rooms comped on the backend. Which casino is the most likely to do this? For what it’s worth I had coin-in of $15K over 2 nights on my last trip at the Luxor in October 2016.
    4) Best casino of the 3 for future comps/offers?
    5) Sportsbook – not that big of deal. I will probably be playing VP and watching games on TV at the bar.
    6) I like to drink different craft/micro brews. Not the macro stuff like Bud, Miller etc.
    7) Friend is staying at the Golden Nugget. I know every casino downtown is close to each other. So probably no big deal.
    8) Fridge in room? Not deal breaker but would be nice.
    9) If the room goes down in price, I assume I can call them up and get an “updated” casino rate?

    All 3 casinos have their plusses and minuses. I've stayed at the Cal and Plaza before. So right now I am leaning towards the D. Never stayed there and actually like the bar on 2nd floor.

    Any thoughts or other considerations? Thanks in advance for replies.
     
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  2. makikiboy

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    I don't think you can go wrong with any of your selections. All have good and bad points to them.

    I don't like the D because I am older and don't like the loud music playing most of the time.

    The Cal has a new sportsbook but no real food available. The Plaza has a large sportbook area with drink service.

    MSS has their 777 restaurant and microbrewery.

    MSS and the Cal have fridges in their room standard. Plaza not sure if they have it or not. Not sure about the D.

    Most of the downtown casinos all have $5 bj and craps. Fremont even has $3 crap tables and bj tables.

    Actually I like downtown because it is so close to go from casino to casino. Yes, you can play at 1 casino to get comps but if you don't have luck there you can just go outside to another casino.
     
  3. kkinwi

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    I have not stayed at the Plaza, but find the D rooms noisy (even on the "quiet" side) and the frig is not standard. They are excellent at sending comps.
    I prefer MSS over the D: quiet rooms, frig is standard in room and good VP, esp at the bars. The host on duty can get you meal comps if your gambling warrants....worked easily for me. They are going thru a transition right now, so our comps seem to change daily. But I suspect (hope) it is temporary.
     
  4. Grant1982

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    MSS easily, Boars Head bar alone will make the trip for you. Shouldn't any any problem getting room comped on back end either.
     
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    In your list of things to consider, you pretty much nailed MSS/Cal. Also, Grant is correct in saying that you shouldn't have a problem getting a comped night or two. Just remember to sign up for a bconnected card if you have not already. The prices seem pretty high but that may be a combination of the weekend and maybe an event happening like the Life is Beautiful (don't know if the name is correct or if it is that weekend) music fest. Most importantly, have fun!!
     
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    Just got back from my first stay at the Plaza and really enjoyed it. Saw lots of $5 tables but was there mid week. Some full pay vp. South tower rooms were quieter than anywhere else downtown. New pool area is nice.
    I played mainly slots. $15K coin in over 3 nights got me full room comp on back end. Hope this helps.
     
  7. makikiboy

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    Maybe I'm a low roller or a "no" roller because I never get any comp nights from MSS or Cal. I mostly play $5 craps so guess I don't rate getting comps.
     
  8. bluesdude

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    I think if VegasLover8 plays as much VP as they say, they should get a comp night. I would talk to a host BEFORE you start playing to see what kind of play they are looking for to get a comp. You won't know unless you ask!
     
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    Hi All,

    I have to chime in here.

    We stayed at the Plaza this last March and after speaking to the main reservation line, then getting transferred to marketing, and then being transferred to casino services, this is what we got as far as a room. I spoke to a host, and at this time of booking, out play did not warrant a host, but hey, always ask, you never know.

    Ashley, was the host we spoke to, gave her our player card numbers, and really thought we would not qualify for anything. Well, it pays to ask. She informed me that she could give me a BOGO promotion. The BOGO was a Thursday-Friday. The entire 2 days came to 163.00 including resort fee and taxes and here is the BEST part, we were given a MINI SUITE complete with a fridge, Coffee maker, 2 bottles of water per day, 650 sq ft. room, bar with barstools, love seat and 2 easy chairs and another major plus, the bathroom area was a complete separate area, AWAY from the sleeping area, with a bathroom fan. Very cool, IMHO.LOL

    So, we love the Plaza, maybe call and ask for casino marketing before making that reservation.

    If that doesn't work, I would choose the California. Newly remodelled, nice casino, nice employee's and they have a walk way to MSS where the 777 brew pub is with micro brews and great food options, with reasonable prices and a GREAT happy hour.

    Hope this helps. Have a great time!!
     
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  10. VegasLover8

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    Thanks for the replies. I have decided on the D. For me it came down to me having never stayed there and the lower pricing (thus less to comp off at the end). I've stayed at the Cal and the Plaza previously and enjoyed them both.
     
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    I like the D rooms. Lol, I am a price person though, and do not gamble enough to get my room comp'd, so I would go through a third party site. I found Plaza on Cheaptickets for $355, and Fremont, Cal, MSS all for $207 on LMTclub. I like the Fremont for location, but the rooms are a little on the small side.
     
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    Thanks for letting us know your decision! So often questions are asked, advice given, and results never posted!
     
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    Boar's Head at MSS has full pay JoB. Long bar at the D is not even close. Since you plan on putting in 15k - your expected return at MSS is more than $200 more than at the D. Also the micro brews available at the bar at MSS are better than anything you can get elsewhere. Just sayin. . .
     
  14. Nevyn

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    I'd go with MSS. Has 777 brewpup, you can get the microbrews at the VP bar or the tables, and better paytables than the others.

    Can't speak to backend comps, but I have stayed at MSS and D, and MSS was a quieter room, and the D's elevator system is a mild but frequent annoyance.

    I mean, for a bargain I'd stay there again, but if MSS and D were the same price I'd do MSS every time.
     
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  15. VegasLover8

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    I plan on spending most of my time at the bar upstairs at the D. Unless it's changed, they have full pay Bonus VP plus progressives. Do you still earn "regular" slot points on these machines? or do you need more coin-in for points like some other places?
     
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    When I was there a few weeks ago, these machines were no different than other VP games for earning points. I couldn't redeem free play at the bar, though.
     
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    If you're looking for backend comps or future room comps, I would recommend the D. Seems like they're pretty generous with their offers if you gamble.
     
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    Not one post I disagree with above. Honestly I think it is great we are back in the days were you can get a nice room at a good value for DT Freemont area.

    Not too long ago they were all dumps it is great to see the investment. Real curious what they do the the old Vegas Club area as I see no movement on that project.

    Looks like the Golden Gate is expanded a little bit.
     
  19. MiamiDave

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    I'm coming in here late with my opinion, but I stayed at the D in early January and I'd say this: if you enjoy going to bed before 1am you might want to avoid the D. It's very loud in your room, particularly due to the percussion sounds/reverberations of the bands/drummers on Fremont. You can hope to get a room high enough and on the opposite side from Fremont but that doesn't always work. I'm from the East Coast and I wanted to go to bed around 11:30pm but it just wasn't going to happen.

    And yes, it's VERY noisy in the casino from the music. That part didn't bother me, though.

    In any case, if those aren't deal breakers, enjoy!
     
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    I agree that the D will get especially noisy at night... this is from my experience, I'm not sure if there's currently any tower you could stay in, that could block most of it out.
    When I recently stayed at The Plaza, it got a little bit on the noisy side but I turned the fan on and that helped.
    But I do think the D is a little bit nicer than the average hotel on Fremont St, it's been a while though.
     
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