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The Ideal DTLV Property

Discussion in 'Misc. Vegas Chat' started by WeCax49, Sep 26, 2021.

  1. WeCax49

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    In your opinion, what would make the ideal property in Downtown? I feel that so many places excel in one specific area, whilst falling short in many others. No place offers the consistent experience you'd find from a Strip property.
     
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    IMHO . . . and, they're not supposed to be a "strip property". For many of us, Downtown is "old Las Vegas", and has a charm and character all it's own. Low ceilings, close quarters (slot machine areas), a variety of dining, both in price and cuisine.

    Not trying to sound snarky, but If you want the strip, then go stay on the strip.
     
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  3. Gus

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    cheap gambling, all withing walking distance not miles like the strip
    bring back the 5/10 table games.
     
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    the walk from the plaza to the el cortez is about the same as from the mgm parking lot to your room and there are a lot of casinos in between
     
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    I like the concentration of all the casinos in one place. The lower limits too. I can get a Freeplay run done in an hour hopping between The D, Four Queens, Golden Nugget, Golden Gate, and Circa.
     
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    Circa was fantastic the afternoon I went. I've heard some drawbacks about higher limits and loud music, but it was great environment when I was there. Watched the Tigers game on the big screen while I drank coffee and played video poker. I love the drink ticket program. Cocktail service was borderline annoying on frequency lol. Had a beer at the bar and watched the bartenders do cool tricks. Played a little $10 3/2 blackjack for a bit.

    Speaking with the dealer, he said they are actively making Circa a little more subdued in the day and he has said the limits are lately 10 going to 15 at night on the weekdays. I'm probably 100% Steven's target customer but I think I could take my older relatives there and they would have a good time.

    I have free rooms at CET so I'll be staying at there when I go this winter, but I also plan on making a full day of circa/ D as well. I'll stay at Circa in the spring and do a little pool time if I get an offer.

    I truly don't understand the appeal of most downtown casinos though. Fremont Street is cool for sure and you definitely should spend a day/night there, but I'm not gambling a nickel in half of those places.
     
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    Even though they have different owners, I kind of look at downtown as one big collection of casinos. For the customer, outside of the player's clubs it might as well be. Maybe it's the short walk between property, maybe it's the canopy... The good/bad is kind of collective.

    When I have visited Circa, I feel like it was basically an attempt to put a property more consistent with the strip downtown. That's not a knock on it, options are good but it doesn't do it for me for that reason. It's certainly a nice place, but when I want to stay downtown I am doing so because I want that type of vibe.

    Basically, I don't think there is an ideal downtown property and if you tried to make one it wouldn't have the character the other properties indirectly all share.
     
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    Could I ask why? Genuinely curious...
     
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    I would love to stay at Circa but rooms there are still ridiculously expensive on weekends. I plan to stay at DTG at some point in the future. I also hear good things about Main Street Station.
     
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    I genuinely don't like the vibe. I'm not high class by any means but I'm good on the 1.99 shrimp cocktails and the 8.99 prime rib. Vegas is a vacation for me and I can spend a couple bucks especially with comped rooms and my usual Spirit flight for 100-200. You might think I'm crazy for flying spirit in the same way I think that people are crazy to stay at some of the downtown hotels to save a few bucks. But with my 2 to 3 night stays its the most effective. I'm also naive to weekend pricing as I only fly in on sunday mornings now.

    I lied when I say I wouldn't spend a nickel. I most definitely went to every one last week and stuck at least a 20 in vid poker at each bar. Even played at a couple blackjack tables for some cheap fun. But at each one as I walked around and wondered why would you come here when they are so many (imo) better options so close.
     
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    I fly Spirit. I like the $5.99 shortcut boarding, the ability to choose my seat, and the alcohol and snacks.
     
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    This is why the Strip exists. I agree that I don't want to spend 80% of my nights in Vegas downtown. It's nice to be able to go to Din Tai Fung and stay in a baller room if I want to. It's nice to be able to sit at Caesars' pool or go to Wet Republic if that is your thing.

    But I do like downtown. And with respect to "ideal property" - it depends upon what you want. QQQQ has some good places to eat and great VP overall. But I have no interest in staying there. Plaza has good bartop VP, but I don't love the rest of the floor. I really like the Vue bar and the vibe at the D/GG, but it's not for everyone, and it is loud at night. I have no real use for Binion's. I think the Nugget is fine but historically was overpriced for what it is. I have no interest in staying in a hotel room right by the experience due to the noise, but plenty of the rooms on higher floors/facing the other way are fine Etc. You have to find your own niche and what you like.
     
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    @WeCax49 for me the ideal downtown property is really any of them except for Circa. I think you have to choose between a fair game and a fair comp so I don't mind the comp shuffling a lot of properties are doing. You can't expect to comp a player everything for them to play a 99%+ game. Give me decent video poker, decent bars comping VP, decent food, decent prices and a decent bed and that's ideal downtown. DTLV is just that, decent. If you want consistent service and high quality amenities, even the strip is struggling in that regard. Most strip properties don't offer any consistency anymore and have bad VP bad bas for comp drinks, bad prices, above decent food and at least a decent bed.
     
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    I look at downtown as one continuous casino, which offers me a variety of rooms to choose from, a pool or 2 if I want one, and multiple dining choices and experiences, all within walking distance of wherever I am sleeping/staying. I don't need a $300 a night room or a $300 meal, but am glad that those options exist in Las Vegas should I need that. Each to his own.
     
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    I guess that depends on what you consider "consistent service and high quality amenities." I've never had a bad experience at any MGM property. I stay at Luxor, NYNY, Mirage, and Mandalay Bay all the time.
     
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    eh, there's a lot of stuff closed at Luxor, table hours are definitely restricted, and it was not great cocktail service. It's not what it was 18 months ago is my guess

    The experience was better on the floor the higher up you went. Aria and Park MGM seemed quite good as a customer.
     
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    Huh? Such as what? I was just there not 3 weeks ago and I didn't see anything closed. Even the buffet was open.
     
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    Go to the second floor. HL bar closed too.
     
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    I don't know what HL bar is, but all of the food court restaurants were open, Diablo's is open, Public House is open, both Starbucks are open, the buffet is open. That doesn't seem like "lots of stuff closed"
     
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    I like downtown. I used to stay on the strip, but after living there, I'll choose downtown almost every time now. It's just an all around better value in every way to me. BConnected and Club One give me free rooms, food and beverage $$ and free play each month for my meager gambling. And there's no resort fee charged on a comped room, which I believe MGM or CET do still charge sometimes or for some levels of players. I don't think my level of play would get me much of anything on the strip, but Derek sets me up like I'm a VIP. Why wouldn't I want that over being treated like cattle on the strip?
     
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