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The flop was … rather favorable

Discussion in 'The Poker Room' started by booker, May 28, 2017.

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  1. booker

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    Five buddies decided to meet at the Little Creek Casino near Shelton, WA, for two nights of cheap poker tournaments, tennis, and shenanigans.

    After busting out of a turbo tournament (card dead and crazy blinds), I went looking for a 1/3 game. None was to be found but they were starting 4/8 limit. I dislike limit, but decided to kill time and wait for the crew.

    The game was short-handed. After 2-3 orbits we had 7 players when I was dealt pocket 8s under the gun and raised. The man to my left made it $12. All folded and I called.

    The flop came A-A-A. We both checked. A crappy little card turned and when I bet $8 and the guy across the table from me literally jumped in his chair and looked VERY uncomfortable. He glared at me; looked at the wall; glared back at me. He was trying to tell me something. I was confused. The opponent called.

    Everyone at the table, regulars all, was now giving me the hairy eyeball. My addled mind registered that I was missing something. I took a good look at the wall next to the podium and discovered a Monte Carlo board stating that the bad beat was Aces full of fives. D'oh. The penny dropped.

    We checked the river. I turned over my 8s and he showed pocket kings.

    The five players who were not in the hand received, I think, $280. The man with the kings garnered $1,400. Lucky, clueless me got $2,200.

    Until now, pocked 8s were among my least favorite hands and I have always disliked the extra rake for jackpots. I may need to reconsider … at least for a while.
     
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  2. La$Vega$

    La$Vega$ What happens in Vegas is put on VMB forever

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    Rather Favorable, too funny!
     
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    I don't play poker,but was the table concerned your bet may have caused the guy with the kings to fold,and then there would be no bad beat?
     
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    You definitely have to bet. If he has a pocket pair he should call, but you can't let a hand like AK or KQ catch up and beat you. If those hands win, you wouldn't get the bad beat jackpot (if they follow standard bad beat jackpot rules).
     
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    I've got so many stories about pocket 8s... and none of them particularly good.
     
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    Nice! Interesting how the jackpot made you both change how you played the hand.
     
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    I don't get it. Anyone with pocket 5's or better should be merrily betting raising and calling, not getting uptight. Its a hand where no one should fold a hand past that threshold.

    And if no one is folding, no one should be worried about a bet.

    The guy trying to signal you actually threatened the jackpot more. Don't know about that room but other rooms actually do a fair bit of hand review to ensure no collusion before paying out.

    I guess the concern is that one of you simply had two unpaired cards and they want that player to catch up. But still, the guy with Kings shouldn't worry about that, he should just call until the river then raise.
     
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    I was going to mention this but opted not to be the buzzkill :) I've seen two jackpots get voided because of this type of behavior in the past though.
     
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    Well … I never been one to change my play to hit a jackpot, and having just sat down, I was only peripherally aware that there was a bad beat available. After I bet the turn and got the table stare-down, I thought my opponent may have had a suited KQ and need a card for his full house. But now, sitting here in my easy chair, it really didn't much matter; I think he would have called anything with two live cards. The 5 other players were all—WTF!?! Don't bet!!! And I got gently chided afterwards.
     
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    I thought about that as well, especially while waiting such a long time to get paid (nearly an hour). I believe that I was the only one at the table who wasn't a regular. I was pleased that nobody verbalized anything. Two different suits checked the cards twice.
     
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  11. tringlomane

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    If he wasn't aware of the bad beat jackpot, or a bad player, he might have folded. Ppl don't think about these scenarios too often and how costly it is to fold if you have a good draw to it.

    But given he three bet preflop, you're behind nearly 100% of the time. Many live 4/8 limit players 3 bet AA and KK and little else. Definitely not KQs.
     
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