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The $20 Trick thread

Discussion in 'LV Strip Hotels' started by Sonya, Jun 25, 2007.

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  1. bloom1966

    bloom1966 Tourist

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    I haven't posted to this board very often (since joining in late 2009) but I have to give my three cents worth of ideology regarding this subject.

    Money is nice, but it dosen't get what you want ALL the time. Sometimes a nice smile, or an unexpected compliment to a hotel clerk will get you (some of) what you would like----with no currency involved.

    I'm sure many clerks have been schmoozed for free upgrades or other attempts for freebies, and they see right through the soap bubbles guests have blown at them. They're not dumb, nor do they have the power to upgrade you from a "bottom level" room to a suite without explaining to management how that could or would have been appropriate.

    You get what you pay for, or what you have coming in comps. If you do get a "small" upgrade at no cost to you, feel very lucky and appreciative of that. It won't happen all the time. Upgrading to a strip-view room at no cost is probable but not guaranteed. Upgrading to a room that would cost an extra 300 bucks for a 5-night stay (at no cost) is not likely, so don't expect it or feel slighted if your "$20 trick" gets you nothing.

    There's my three cents. :soapbox:
     
  2. Sisyphus

    Sisyphus Low-Roller

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    One of these days I'd like to try bribing with food to see what that yields. I made some cookies before my most recent trip and contemplated placing some in a Ziploc to hand to the person at the desk. I ended up not doing it, but I imagine it'd be different. Plus, I make darn good cookies!
     
  3. bloom1966

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    Them thar cookies better be like the ones on "That 70's Show"...
    special cookies made with a special ingredient...and it isn't "love"!:rolleyes2:
     
  4. Bur2Las

    Bur2Las Low-Roller

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    This is 100% correct, which is why hotel management would rather the clerks actually upsell than giving away upgrades and pocketing $20 or $50.

    Incidentally, $30 to upgrade is about right at check-in; there would have been a $50-$60 price difference had you booked a panoramic room. Anyway, it was money well spent, I hoped you enjoyed your stay.
     
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  5. mongo380

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    That is what I suspected. Thanks for confirming. I actually went in with low expectations and did it as more of an experiment.
     
  6. kewidogg

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    That's a pretty bold statement. :peace:

    I would bet they more so get in trouble for taking what can appear to bribes, as opposed to at least first trying to upsell. How do you know they get compensated?

    As for the upsell, that's standard. Any hotel you go to, if you ask for better room, they will offer another rate. When I got shot down on a comp upgrade at Flamingo, they offered it to me at $35nt more, and I declined. That is the price I would have paid for it online, so no savings.

    Wish we knew someone on the board that worked front desk that could actually give us a low down of how it works, so we aren't constantly speculating. The front desk people aren't "sales", they have very little incentive to upsell (otherwise they would offer it to EVERYONE on check in, not just the people who ask for upgrades). Think if you were in their shoes, and you got more money for upsells. You'd ask everyone.
     
  7. brownies95

    brownies95 Low-Roller

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    We are booked in a Fab Deluxe for 7 nights in July. I am thinking about trying the $20 dollar trick for an upgrade to a Fab Luxury room. Has anybody had success doing this?

    Tim:peace:
     
  8. Bur2Las

    Bur2Las Low-Roller

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    Yes, it is bold...and I stand by it. :D

    I thought it was fairly common knowledge that front desk people *are* salespeople and if the inventory is available, they are supposed to try to upsell (at many places). Maybe, though, only the more senior clerks have that responsibility, since yes, they are compensated for it.

    I also wonder, though, why there aren't more hotel employees chiming in on threads like these; but I haven't read all 52 pages!
     
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  9. HallOfPromise

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    Last year at the Palazzo I was successful with the $20 trick in getting a suite with a strip view. It was early in June and the young lady behind the desk seemed to go right ahead in trying to get us something we liked. It was my first go at the trick and I wasn't batting high, not to mention I've read at the Palazzo an "upgrade" (if you want to call it that) to a strip view was the most common complementary upgrade a person could get with just $20.

    This year we are staying at the Venetian and I am somewhat worried with my luck. We will be checking in on Sunday May 27, the day before Memorial Day, and I have a good (or let's say bad) feeling the hotel will be booked, or at least filled up enough to where a comped upgrade (even just getting a strip view or a move to the Palazzo) will be a hard sale.

    If I am unsuccessful the first day is it possible or even a good idea to come back to the front desk the next day and try for an upgrade with the $20 trick? All I am looking for, more or less, is a strip view. :)
     
  10. Commodore69

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    My experiences, thoughts & $0.02:

    1. :nono:I know it's been said before, but I really caution people to keep it at $20. Resist the urge to put down that $50 or $100. Unless you've got some crazy request or 2 week stay you're looking to upgrade, keep it at $20!! This really is a case of "you could be ruining it for everyone" if in a year or two $40 or $50 becomes the norm. Why force inflation on a perfectly working system? $20 is completely reasonable and is a known standard. Think of all the other twenties that clerk is getting throughout the day - 3, 4, 5, 10? It adds up - so I'm sure they are doing what they can for that base +20. Ok - enough of that.<br>
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    2. These guys n' gals know the deal. No reason to get all James Bond-y or shaky or weird. Just follow the script. They will help you if they can & won't if they can't. Ask if any complimentary upgrades are available when offering the sandwich.<br>
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    3. Bally's: Did this once & it worked. Ask for the North Tower. ANY room in the North Tower is a bonus. The Jr. Suite is pretty nice. My $20 got me this even coming in with 3 comped nites. Maybe the ST is better now, this was a few years ago...<br>
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    4. Aria: Love this place :nworthy:, but haven't been able to upgrade to Corner Suite after two attempts (3rd coming in 30 days). They have been open to the $20 & I did receive a better room placement/view, but both times the suites have been sold out. I've asked to pay extra, just to check (& also would have paid to upgrade), but they were legitimately sold out. Both times they clearly went into search mode to find me a better room in the same class after the $20 was proffered. Also, they put it in plain view both times leading me to believe it's a pretty open secret now that is dealt with in different ways at different properties.<br>
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    5. One variant on this that I've tried the last couple of times I've been to LV is to hit up the night/early AM staff my last night there (usually drunkenly) & do the $20 offer for a late check out. Both times I've done it, I've gotten a 2 or 3 PM CO - maybe later. Can't exactly remember, but I know it was well worth being able to take my time to get moving the last day. Could hit the pool & come back to the room without having to get up at 7AM.
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    --Commodore69
     
  11. Thadeus

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    My skepticism with this whole trick, you will never know if you could have gotten upgrade without the $20?:peace:
     
  12. zamboni

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    Ballys yesterday got upped to 26th floor "high roller suite" is what she called it. To me it isn't an actual suite, but it is bigger than my brothers room. I have been telling him to try it but he didn't. I think he was mad when he seen my room
     
  13. chess

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    If you are worried just go down later that evening and get another key :) easy peasy mannnnn
     
  14. heatherlovesvegas

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    I want to try this when I head to the Trump in a few weeks. From some googling seems like more people have succeeded than failed.

    A few questions, is it better to check in a little later? I'm driving in, my friend is flying in, I'm picking her up at like 3-4. Would it be better for us to go hang out for a bit then head to the hotel at like 6 or something instead?

    Also it's a pretty busy weekend in Vegas, but not specifically to the Trump.. (Billboard awards at MGM and a fight at Mandalay), does that matter? I mean, how would I know if the hotel is sold out or something. Is it worth even trying?
     
  15. xmarksx

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    If you are checking in on a Friday or Satuday, I would say that early is better. Also, mention that you would be happy to wait for a xxx (your choice of room) if it meant waiting for someone to check out and have it cleaned. I have done it before and it seems to give the clerk more options.

    If you check in later, they may actually not have the specific room available if volume is high. Just my opinion, for what it is worth.
     
  16. Ruark

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    First off, I'm sure most front desk people are familiar with this trick, so I don't put pressure on them (it's a frustrating enough job like it is) by asking for a "complimentary upgrade." They KNOW what that $20 bill is for! But of course you have to say something; you can't just hand him $20. So I just leave it open... "Sir? Can you make sure we get a good room?" He might offer you some choices, like strip view vs. mountain view, or upgrade you to the next level, etc.

    If my wife's with me, sometimes that helps: "Sir? This is my wife's first time in Vegas. Can you make sure we get a good room?"

    At PH he gave the $20 back and said, "I don't need that" and upgraded us to a nice room with a Bellagio fountain view. Got a nice high-floor room with a beautiful mountain view at the Nugget. Got an upgrade at Flamingo.

    But in general, like I said, they KNOW what's going on; they see this trick every day. So I don't insult them by pretending to be asking for a "complimentary upgrade."
     
  17. Tree DA

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    It's just semantics. You are doing the same thing.
     
  18. heatherlovesvegas

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    I just read somewhere that maybe later they would have a better idea of no-shows. But I think what you said actually makes more sense.

    Yea checking in Saturday out Monday.

    I've never done this before, so I'm a little scared. But I guess what's the worst that can happen? They say no haha.
     
  19. Transplant

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    Definitely give it a shot. Plenty of people have been upgraded even on rooms they got through hotwire or priceline.
     
  20. Jimmyredcab

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    I arrived very late at night on Monday 7th May, had a room booked and paid for at the Tropicana, just a basic room through expedia.
    Put $20 inside my passport and asked if there was any chance of staying in the Paradise tower, the clerk pointed out that there was some money in my passport, I told her it was hers ---- she managed to find me a room on the 18th floor with a view of the Luxor, always worth trying, they can only say no.
     
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