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Struggling to decide to cancel or not....

Discussion in 'Misc. Vegas Chat' started by Caroline1851, May 14, 2020.

  1. Caroline1851

    Caroline1851 Newbie

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    My kids and I had a trip booked in April; rescheduled to August 9-14. My flights are through United and their website states changing flights/cancelling, etc has to be done by 5/31. I wish i could wait until mid July to make a decision as things aren't really predictable. But....that being said, what is everyone's opinion on whether Vegas will be up and running almost regularly by August? It's not easy to simply rebook as my kids will be H.S and college next year, so won't have the same school breaks schedule..... Just looking for opinions on how you see Vegas being in August... THANKS!
     
  2. Sonya

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    I wanted to say something before I reply. I hope that we can treat this reasonable question with respect and facts and not hyperbole and thread drift. I think this is a question that is similar to what many people here are trying to figure out. It would be nice to be able to have a discussion about how we are each approaching this question without it devolving like many other threads we've had on this pandemic. Please. help me out a little bit here.

    Depending on your definition of "running almost regularly", I would say slim to none.

    If normalcy is the way Vegas was in January and February, I would predict no chance of it being like that in August. In an ideal situation, casinos will be open, with the currently proposed cleaning and distancing protocols, etc. I would expect buffets to still be closed, maybe a few more restaurants than initially opening. Probably no shows. Social distancing at the pool. I would not expect many of the casinos to be reopened yet with MGM and CET both focused on opening just two properties at first. What's important to you in Vegas and what will that look like with the new policies? I find it difficult to predict what is going to happen tomorrow, let alone two months from now. :)

    Although it looks like the casinos are moving in the direction of opening in June, please remember that we don't know for sure until we all hear from the Governor about if they are moving to Phase Two in June and if Phase Two includes limited opening of Strip Casinos. I'm not saying it will happen, but it is a possibility to be aware of.

    This virus is not going to magically disappear in the next few weeks or months. We are waiting for a vaccine that likely may be more than a year away. If the virus is still present in Nevada, the restrictions will need to remain in place.

    For all of us the decision isn't whether you want to go to Vegas or not, it's about balancing your personal risk level and the restrictions in place for air travel, in the casinos, in restaurants, shows, pools and the other things that are important to making your Vegas trip feel "normal". If you know that distancing will be the norm in Vegas, will you be able to enjoy it enough to take the exposure risk and spend the money?

    There is also the danger of an outbreak in Vegas, or in Nevada in general, that could cause the state to require a step backwards and close the casinos. There are a lot of people in Nevada invested in making sure that doesn't happen, but it is possible.

    I am hopeful that Vegas will be open in August, but those "normal" days may be behind us, at least for the foreseeable future.
     
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  3. sybgal

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    I would hope that all airlines would re-book flights for anyone having issues due to the Covid 19 issue.....at no cost....throw away any normal rules....think of customers they want to serve in the future....
     
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  4. rhinoman7

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    Maybe you can find out how much it would cost to cancel your flights after 5/31, in the event that traveling on those dates is not feasible for you. That way, if the amount is somewhat reasonable, you could just hold out and cancel later if that makes more sense. A bit of a gamble, but it is an option.
     
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  5. DaiLun

    DaiLun R.C., L.C., and A.A.N.G.

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    As I said in another post. It depends on how much your would enjoy paying for a "dumbed down" trip to Las Vegas.

    I don't think that Las Vegas will be close to "normal" again until there is a vaccine.
     
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  6. Zacharius

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    The chances of being up and running as “normal” are almost zero. The chances of them being up and running in some capacity are high. Whether that appeals to you or not is, of course, a decision only you can make. Some can’t stand the idea of seeing Vegas as anything other than what they’re used to. Others are excited to see a very different Vegas, myself included.

    Odds are, flights will remain cheap for a while. If I were you, I would cancel the flight and look at re-booking closer to August once you know more. I highly doubt airfare will go crazy high any time this summer.
     
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  7. andyg99

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    and to be more factual we must not just assume that there will eventually be a vaccine as most are doing....
     
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  8. SaltyNutSnack

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    I am still booked for June 2. If Vegas is open, we’re gonna be there. I also plan to share how my experience is. Gonna try to do a live or semi live trip report. I’m bad at doing them though and lose track while im there.
     
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  9. Wabashabi

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    If you can change to another airline that has a better cancellation policy then that would buy you more time to decide. United has come under some fire lately for having a more restrictive cancellation than other airlines.
     
  10. DaiLun

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    My bad . . . not remembering that there is no vaccine for malaria or HIV/AIDS. A poor assumption on my part. :oops:
     
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  11. PressThe5n9

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    I have kids that fall in the same age range as yours. Since you are taking a family vacation, I’m going under the assumption that most of your time is NOT being spent in a casino. I understand that some time will be spent in a casino, because let’s face it, that’s why many of us enjoy going to Vegas.

    I wouldn’t be too worried about Vegas being the “full-on” craziness we all know, but see it for the adventure that it can be. There may be less crowding and if the National Parks are open, you can take the family to see GCNP, Red Rock Canyon, Valley of Fire, or even enjoy some time at Lake Mead with fewer people. This could allow your family to see and do more in your time together before the school year starts back. I want my kids to be able to experience things throughout the country before they leave the house to become adults, and seeing the glamour and lights of the Strip is one thing I want them to see; but, I also want them to know there is so much more than just that nearby that can be enjoyed also.
     
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  12. oldaquaman

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    .....yes, but remember, average daily high temperature in las vegas during august is 104, even higher for lake mead
     
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    Nah, you're cool. I didn't know until the past few days that we've not yet developed a vaccine for any coronavirus.
     
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    To the OP: Take a good look at Sonya's post above and her daily updates. That is it, right there, in a nutshell. None of us vegas the same way, even when it's at full tilt. None of us have any solid sense of what it will be like in a few months. That's makes advising someone doubly hard.

    It's frustrating and we all feel it.
     
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  15. PressThe5n9

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    That’s why I didn’t mention Death Valley. ;) I think it was more of pointing out more to do than casinos. There are some places in Utah to visit and will be cooler during that time of the year, but you’re right, it will be very hot during August in the desert.
     
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    I hope this does not cause drift, but the current leniency by the airlines is pretty good. At some point the virus will become less of an issue, but some folks will still decide not to travel and in "their mind", it is an issue and believe the airline should provide a break. There will always be a point where the customer opinion and the company will not be the same. Nobody knows exactly how bad, or how good things need to be to expect those breaks to continue.

    And again - not to cause drift - we do not know about the survival of various airlines.
     
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    I was there on St Paddy's Day as things were shutting down, don't know if start up will be similar, but... Best I can describe it was like being in a ski resort town in August. We still had fun, but things were very limited...a few cafes and mid-range restaurants open, but far from all and most high-end dining closed; most shops and restaurants closing earlier in the evening; etc.

    If you're going to have a family vacation, it's probably as good, if not better than any other place you could go. I'd think places like the Mob Museum would be open with social distancing / limited hours, and the pools will open...different, but open. No shows, theaters, big events, etc. I have no idea what they'll do with bowling alleys and such. But as mentioned above, there are still many (hot) outdoor activities in the area and I'd bet you won't have to dodge strollers while walking the strip in the evening!
     
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    Seems to me the best bet for vacations this summer -- given what we presently know/what's projected -- is any place that has a lot of outdoor fun.
     
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    I'm planning on a trip in late August or September. I think it will take time, but bear in mind most states have already relaxed or removed lockdowns. Deadwood, SD is doing excellent gaming business right now, hotels 80-90% occupancy last I heard. Harrah's Ak-Chin and two other casinos in Arizona open tomorrow morning, Biloxi casinos open the day before Memorial Day Weekend. Even in CA, many of the tribal run casinos plan to be open by June 1. August is over 2 months away. While I don't think Vegas will be fully back, I'd expect most if not all hotels on The Strip open. Pools, many restaurants, shops, bars to be open as well. What I wouldn't expect to be open is spas or clubs. I need out, so as long as the hotels don't force a mask on me, and it doesn't feel worse than when I was there on March 13, I'll be fine with it.
     
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  20. MaxStacks

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    I’m optimistic, based on reading the reopening plans, that LV will be open enough in August to have a great time.
     
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