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Stadium gaming removed from horseshoe Hammond

Discussion in 'Non-Vegas Casino Hotels' started by DoctorD, Sep 1, 2019.

  1. DoctorD

    DoctorD Low-Roller

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    I went last night to Horseshoe Hammond. The whole stadium gaming area with roulette, craps, and blackjack was removed.

    They are left with a lonely auto roulette wheel with 5 or 6 seats around it.

    A while ago, they had dealers spinning the roulette wheel and dealing the blackjack.
    Then last month it changed to automated without a live dealer.

    One of the staff mentioned they were causing too many issues.

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    Wow! Can't see how that helps business.
     
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  3. deansrobinson

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    You mean, the dealers were causing too many issues...in addition to dealing cards? Or were the patrons causing too many issues, and we need to reduce the amount coming through the door? :eek:
     
  4. DoctorD

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    The setup involved a live dealer who would draw cards when the system told them to. The system then did everything else with bets.

    The stadium equipment was super glitchy. I think there was a scanner type device that would read the value of the card as the dealer took cards to determine who wins/loses.

    Maybe every 30 minutes, it would misread the card value and it would take them 10 minutes to track down a floor person to override.

    Also, the pace was too slow with the live dealer. Waiting maybe 15 seconds for everyone to make each decision. Then a good 30 seconds to minute wait after each hand it seemed.

    When they just made it completely automated without a live dealer to draw, the pace was way too fast. After each hand it seemed like under 10 seconds to get your bets in. Since they allow you to play up to 3 hands, that could be challenging to get everything set for bets. Not uncommon to see people getting locked out of bets they wanted.

    Now as far as the dealers, I don’t think they liked dealing it at all. Too many issues to deal with. Seemed like much more of a hassle than a regular table. At Caesars Windsor, they had the same dealer doing stadium roulette and stadium blackjack at the same time. They didn’t seem to want to be there.

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    Could be clearing out area to build a sports book, now that sports betting is legal in Indiana.
     
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    It was right next to it. The book there opened up yesterday I believe.

    They have so much square footage in the place; I’m kind of surprised they didn’t relocate it.

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    I think they had a similar rendition at Venetian. Cindy and I tried playing stadium BJ and it just didn't pan out. It was more gimmicky than anything. After about half an hour, we split. Not much fun at all. I think this is one of those things that looked good on the whiteboard, but implementation came up short.
     
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    I liked that area. Cheap $5 3/2 "live" bj.
     
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    For those that want constant degen action, it’s not bad. You can simultaneously be playing three handed blackjack while doing roulette also. They just need to work out the kinks with the system.

    The degen action is not how I roll, but others may like that.

    The bean counters probably like that one live dealer can run games for 20-30 people. As opposed to 5-6 people that can sit at their table.

    Not to mention, there are no payout errors or miscounting the value of someone’s hand.

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    I think they just moved all this equipment to Fallsview! I have seen very few people playing so far in the few weeks it has been set up. that may change as the live tables on the weekends don't even have $10 6:5 - I saw a $50 6:5 a couple weekends ago and pleople were playing it..
     
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    Guilty! Lol
     
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    Wait! Is their book is on the barge? It looks like everyone else is going with sportsbooks separate from the casino. At Ameristar they were putting right at the entrance. At Blue Chip, they took out their restaurant/lounge to put in a book that connects to the sportbar. I haven't seen Ameristar's yet but Blue Chip's has Vegas touches.
     
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    Honestly if they have room on the floor makes sense to put it there.. walk into the casino and hope people bet on more profitable things
     
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    Are they doing continuous shuffle? Or is it hand dealt? I've got a work trip to Chicago in October and was going to head to Hammond for some blackjack and maybe sports book gambling the night before everything began but this is disappointing and may make me reconsider if I can only get sports book or CSM dealt blackjack...

    If it's all digital mumbo jumbo and not CSM then I may consider still...
     
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    It was a dealt from a shoe when they had the live game going.. obv the one without the live game was all digital
     
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