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Sorry, need to vent....

Discussion in 'Non-Vegas Chat' started by in4mation808, Sep 9, 2017.

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  1. in4mation808

    in4mation808 VMB VIP Expert Picture Taker

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    Last weekend, I couldn't move my shoulder. It was like it was frozen and in extreme pain. More like joint pain vs. muscle pain. This has never happened to me before, so because it was early in the morning, I went to the ER. This also occurred during the long weekend, so the doctor offices would be closed for the weekend. And I needed help.

    Went in, and the doctor gave me this steroid called Prednisone. originally, she wanted to give me a NSAID such as Advil or Aleve, but in the past, I've found out that it really messes up my stomach. So it was her decision (and I guess, mine) to take the medication.

    She had me on a dosage of 50mg per day, for 5 days. Then stop. I know that I'm not to self-diagnose myself and even read things on the Internet (since half of what you find medically shouldn't be trusted). Because people are subjective vs. objective.

    What irritates me is that after taking this medication, after the second day, I started to feel the side effects. Now, after reading, there are things that this drug can do to your body regardless if you take it short term or long term. And that's what makes me irritated. If I knew of these effects, I would have asked for something else if there was an alternative.

    Now that I'm off this evil steroid, I'm having the symptoms of withdrawal. My doctor took a blood test and the readings are all over the place because he took it during the 4th day the medication was in my system already. I can't imagine how long it will take to recover from this medication. I have no appetite, get cold sweats on my forearms and back, irritable, nauseated, blurry vision, and can't sleep! OMG, the inability to sleep and get a good nights rest even when you are tired is the worst thing. It's like you feel like you want to sleep, but then lie there and can't sleep. Sorry.........had to vent.
     
  2. greekjim

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    The cold sweats are from the steroid withdrawal, they could of gave you a steroid taper to help wean you off them.
     
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    And they should of gave you something to sleep
     
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    Sorry to hear of your trials and tribulations.
     
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    I'm sorry to hear....I'm not one to take medications if it isn't 100% necessary because of experiences like yours. I hope everything turns out better
     
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    50 mg seems like a large dose for that particular drug. There are many conditions you might have that would make it smart to avoid it. Usually it is given for muscle problems along with a mild pain reliever.
     
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    Oh, steroids are often given for acute joint pain and usually have great results when given properly. 50 mg is a large dose but not extreme. My husband was given a 140 mg dose last month for a bout of rheumatoid that landed him in the hospital. The important rule is that you have to slowly be weaned off of the medication.
    Technical: Your body makes about 7mg of steroids per day on it's own in the forms of cortizone and hydrocortizone. When you are given a dosage of steroids your body stops making its own steroid supply. That is why you have to be weaned off of it...to allow your body to start up its own steroid production. Usual reductions are 20mg twice a day for 2 days then 10mg twice a day for 2 days then 5mg twice a day for 2 days and then done. Side effects of sweats and sleep disorders are all symptoms of not being weaned off of the steroid.
     
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    I know pain so you vent as much as you feel the need to. I have taken this drug in the past but did not have those effects. I hope that you can feel better real soon. I don't remember the dosages.
     
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    I've taken steroids in the past but it was always in the form of a 6 pack of tablets. The first day you took 6, second day 5 and so on until you only took 1 on the last day.
     
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    Everybody responds to steroids differently; the side effects on the stomach, however, are no different than the NSAIDS, so not sure what the provider was thinking when they made that choice.
    On the other hand, steroid withdrawal should not typically come after a short steroid burst of 5 days at that dose. of course, if you measure serum cortisol levels during treatment they will be off, but it won't affect your body's ability to recover as if you were on steroids for longer than 10-14 days or more when a taper is required.
    for many folks, you can get "revved" up, insomnia, very hungry; and if you have any underlying diabetes can make it worse, never mind the risk or GI reflux and ulcer.
    One part of responsible prescribing, is reviewing side effects with your patients, doesn't sound like this was done.
    I am going against my "rules" for offering medical advice online in this type of forum, but this is more education to me than advice. (I am in the "biz")

    I am sorry you experienced this, hope you can get to an ortho soon, sounds like you need a steroid injection rather than oral steroids (don't worry, side effect profile is much different).
     
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    Best wishes for healing and relief soon!

    RICHARD
     
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    This sounds like the Vegas withdrawals I get after a trip, knowing I have to wait six months for my next trip.
     
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    You have my sympathies. Not to steal your thread, but I need to vent also. Between Aug 11-15, I went to the ER three times because of back pain. Twice they sent me home with prescription for pain and a even a cane.
    The third time I wen to the ER they finally did lab work and found I had an abcess on my spine and admitted me to the hospital, but had to transfer me to another hospital where there was a
    specialist.
    Long story short, I ending up spending ten days in hospital and seven days in rehab learning how to walk.
    I had a rx for prednisolone but never had a chance to take it. But, I am still trying to get all of the drugs out of my body. I too am having hot and cold flashes. I am just a bit sore and weak and need to get my appetite back. I know it will be a long process of recovery.
    Just hang in there my friend, this too shall pass, just give it time. I am hoping to be ready for my Vegas trip in December.
     
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    BTW, how is the joint pain?
     
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    Thanks everyone for all the replies and kind words and even the education. I've learned a lot. I guess everyone is different....including all doctors. What they (and don't) tell you. I still have the joint pain, but it's not as bad as when going to the ER initially. My focus right now is to get over the hurdle of the side effects and withdrawals that this has caused. The only thing I have to look forward to is planning that Vegas trip in December for the Winter that we always do take.
     
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    Unfortunately most hospitals provide the B team or C team during weekend hours, even worse during a holiday weekend. With that in mind I would avoid any treatment during the weekend unless absolutely needed. Load up on whatever gets you through the night until you can see your regular doc.

    Thanks for sharing your experience, I hope you have a quick recovery.:thumbsup:
     
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    What??? So not true and very insulting. As a nurse in a hospital everyone does weekends. All doctors take turn being on call. All nurses work every other weekend including ER nurses. There is no A or B team.

    Where people make a mistake is thinking that an ER physician can always magically diagnose you in an hour or two. That is what family physicians are for. There are so many diseases and conditions that have similar manifestations of pain and discomfort. Which is why a patient is always told to follow up with their own Doctor.
     
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    If you are concerned about drug side effects you need to make friends with your pharmacist. Don't know if that happens elsewhere, but the two pharmacies I use require me to sign an acknowledgement that I don't want counseling or have questions on a drug, plus you get that laundry list of possible interactions with every prescription. Why is that list so long? Well because everyone is different and it is required that all the risks/interactions are listed clearly should you choose to read them.

    I mostly don't read them or I would never take anything - LOL. I trust my doctor but am extra careful with ER doctors. They are tasked with treating your specific complaint at the time and not treating you as a long term patient. How could they possibility know you would be the rare person who responds outside the norm with the limited information they have available.
     
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    Sorry to hear about this. I take so little medications of any kind that it doesn't usually take much to effect me. I have to also watch what they prescribe me. The inability to sleep that you describe is something I also went through once before and I think it was from Phenergan. Good luck and hope everything goes back to normal!
     
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    Might be good to have a smartphone handy to check on side effects of drugs.

    Not only ER doctors but regular doctors. Many of them prescribe medication but don't really know the side effects that come with it. My GP prescribed medication for my diabetes. In a 6 month period I gained 15 lbs! This is even though I exercise 3x a week and haven't changed my routine in many years. Told the dr about it and he said to just exercise more and eat less! A month later I gained another 5 lbs so I stopped taking that medicine and immediately lost 10 lbs in a 1 month time. I told the Dr and he insisted it wasn't the medication and to go back on it again. Immediately I gained another 5 lbs in 3 weeks so I stopped taking it for good. I also changed my dr. and started going to an endocrinologist for my diabetes problem.

    Luckily I lost all the weight I gained and then some but nowadays when a dr. prescribes medicine for me I always google it to find out the side effects.
     
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