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Smoking marijuana on the street

Discussion in 'Vegas After Dark' started by bnlphan, Mar 12, 2018.

  1. bnlphan

    bnlphan Degenerate In Training

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    I knew it was legal to possess purchase etc but wasnt expecting it to be smoked in public. Flamingo, miracle mile shops along with the bridge from bellagio to ballys all had strong odor. Ive yet to see anyone actually smoking but its definitely being done.
     
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    To be fair, I smelled it a lot in that area before it was legal to purchase in Vegas. Same with that area in front of PHo, by the elevator.
     
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  3. thecarve

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    Yeah. I'm not sure I've had a Vegas trip ('96 to present) when I haven't smelled, or seen, folks smoking on the strip.

    I really haven't noticed an uptick since it became legal-ish.
     
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    Yeah, maybe a small uptick since legalization, but I have been noticing it later at night on the street for years. Of course, it's illegal to do that! But the ones smoking it probably dgaf and cops typically look the other way.
     
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  5. jon_vegas

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    I smell weed all the time but very rarely do I smell burnt weed or see it being smoked out in the open. It is still illegal to smoke outside.
     
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    topcard Older than the Stardust!

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    I've definitely noticed an increase in street-smoking on Fremont... as in, I see all of the time now, and virtually never before legalization.
     
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    In December we spent a lot of time at the PH seeing shows, and people were openly smoking pot in the restrooms....everytime we were there. Once security walked in and took a drag off a joint from a guest....I was a bit surprised.
     
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    Don't blame me, I vape and take edibles. Can't smell those.
     
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    FullPay When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro

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    With the edibles available I’ve never felt the need to burn the weed in Vegas, but given the threat of a three hundred dollar cleaning fee I smell people smoking outside the rooms in every hotel I stay in.
     
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    Yup, those cleaning fees are probably a big driver. I blaze in my room anyway, but I'm always nervous as hell about it and I can see why it would drive people outside.
     
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  11. Audible Nectar

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    Been reading some of the threads here on the new freedoms allowed in the Great State Of Nevada, and figured I would share some thoughts.

    But first, in the interest of full disclosure, I want to preface this by stating that I do not recommend or endorse illegal activity, but want to try to "spark" some conversation about the "real world" consequences AND benefits - the "give and take" - that will inevitably occur (and need to occur) for this to work out amicably.

    All of the legal cannabis states have laws against public consumption, in some way, shape or form. That's perfectly reasonable. In most places, cannabis isn't much different than other legal vices, like smoking and consuming alcohol. There's restrictions on these things, where you can do that, and where you can't.

    But Las Vegas is a different animal. As permanent home to "All Things Party", the fact that cannabis is now legal means that cannabis in Las Vegas is no longer a nuisance that's illegal and shunned officially - it's now a revenue generating benefit to business. It has moved from "bug" to "feature", whether on an individual level one agrees or not. And people will have mixed feelings. If you ask a hotelier on the Las Vegas Strip what he thinks about cannabis legalization, they might get worried about smoking it in the rooms and other similar issues. But if you also told them that legal cannabis could amount to roughly 9% of your business coming for that reason - and hence additional revenues, then you might like that idea too.

    And so there are conflicts: In Colorado - a state I tour in frequently, in part because of legal cannabis - these conflicts become evident. But there exists a "letter of the law" as well as "the spirit of reasonable accommodation", to where these obvious problems get resolved in some fashion. And in Colorado, these "accommodations" most often appear in the area of tourism. Those who make money from tourism don't want to spoil it, but at the same time they don't want to push away other business. And so you get these "workarounds" that happen, often on a selective basis, in accordance to the situation. It has a lot of hoteliers, venue operators, as well as cannabis consumers making honest efforts to be reasonable and to accommodate. And almost always "on the fly".

    A tourist only has one "private space" - his/her hotel. If the hotel doesn't allow it, they have no place to use it.

    Now these area hotels - they KNOW people come for cannabis, and don't allow it used in rooms or in public spaces.......but if you look/ask around, there's usually a place - a makeshift tent, or gazebo, or patio area in some place, oft discreet and out of the way of other guest traffic - where people smoke. They figured out that if you play hard and fast to the rule (no smoking in room OR in public, which means a tourist has no place to legally smoke) - and try to enforce that - there will be more real world headaches than you can possibly solve. And to actually enforce that requires a blunt instrument, in a world (hospitality) where you want to do the opposite. And ESPECIALLY if that one thing that annoys you helps your business and overall tax base.

    Another area of note are concerts. That can be a bit of a changing situation - depending on crowds - but at many shows the crowds are predominantly smokers or at least amicable to it. So at certain shows, they look the other way. Or a "hybrid" situation like at Red Rocks, where I've seen people told to go to the smoking areas off to the side of the seating. They'll straight out tell you "Hey, we'll look the other way if you do it over there, but not here." And with other crowds where that's not a part of the "culture"? They allow it less so, as they read their crowds that well.

    So in a place like Vegas, where it's now legal, now a "feature attraction" in a city full of them, and will be sought and consumed by tourists at large, let the "work-arounds" commence:D

    In Vegas, even before it was legal, it was not unusual to see and smell it on The Strip. Particularly in recent visits, where public attitudes towards it have been much more favorable. So along with people toting their yards of mixed cocktails you saw, and smelled, the roasting flowers as well. And with it being legal now, more so, as evidenced by all the comments.

    So, there exists this issue: Tourists have no legal place to use it, and they will want to use it. So they will usually seek to do one of two things:

    Smoke it in the room

    Smoke it outside (to especially avoid room fines).

    If the police on the Strip start enforcing the law, and it is visible, obvious, public fact that they are strictly enforcing this, people will smoke in their rooms. Eventually the hoteliers will get tired of this (and they are already tired of it now, I'm sure, because people will do it in rooms anyway to an extent). I don't figure the PD does much on The Strip to people who are discreet and not acting like fools, but if they did, the blowback would fall on the hotels even more so. It's also not a good look for Vegas to be busting people smoking joints on The Strip. In a place that advertises being "the right amount of wrong", that won't go over well, especially when cannabis is now legal.

    Traditionally, Las Vegas does workarounds on this stuff like no other place. I would fully expect Las Vegas to be the first place to open a cannabis bar in a casino hotel, and it would be on the Strip. Might be some time before this happens, but knowing how Vegas does things I would expect something of the sort in time. It's the hospitality, "give the people what they want" kind of place, and especially with Vegas' reputation for the "risque/cutting edge" that direction is more likely than not. Even if not participated in by the likes of MGM and Caesars.

    But I also write all of this to consider some food for thought: Every joint you smell and see on the Strip is one that you don't see/smell in your hotel complex. Now that it's legal it will be very interesting to see how this affects a very unique place. The country's biggest, best known party spot, now with legal cannabis. There will be some growing pains, and as with other states am curious to see how it all plays out.
     
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    Without agreeing or disagreeing with anything else in your post, I will add this... in contrast to Colorado and the other legal states, the Nevada Gaming Control Board has made their position crystal clear on marijuana use and promotion by the casino resorts in the state. While it has diminished over the years, licensed gaming constitutes a hell of a lot more than the 9% quoted above to these business. These gaming operators have a vested interest in complying with NGCB and federal rules and regulations (while, admittedly, indirectly profiting from the pot tourism into the state). Nevada may be the LAST place where a cannabis bar is opened in a casino hotel, not the first.
     
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    Adding on to everything Spicole said above, which I agree with... There is no way this is going to happen until it is made federally legal. The gaming commission controls all in Vegas and they seem very unlikely to budge on this.
     
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