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Seeding my 2018 trip and starting from scratch

Discussion in 'Comps' started by adbynot01, Aug 10, 2017.

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  1. adbynot01

    adbynot01 Tourist

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    Ok, so I'm heading back to LV in October for 6 days and my original thought was DIAD at PH.
    My last trip was last October and I really only played at Cosmopolitan and when I contacted my host, which was provided along with an upfront match comp I was notified that I would only qualify for casino rate.
    This trip I am staying at MB on a paid but discount casino rate and have zero intention of playing there for any significant amount.
    The trip I am looking to build for is our 10th wedding anniversary. We were married at the Flamingo and have been back many times since. My wife likes the Flamingo for the pool and the fact that it's easy to get a random out of.
    Considering that I would rather stay at Cosmopolitan, the B, Aria and the likes, what should I be looking at attacking and getting the best offers.
    BTW, I would be doing DIAD on VP at PH if that helps, and I don't have an issue with playing VP at Chandelier either. I have dabbled at row 802 and the likes, but it will almost be strictly VP for me.
     
  2. DaiLun

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    Too much of this doesn't make sense to me . . . .

    1)You're staying at MB on a casino rate but have no intention of playing there.
    2)Your wife like the Flamingo but you don't want to stay/play there.
    3)You're playing at PH, but your "rathers" are "not" CET.

    Why would you aim for DIAD if your intent is to stay at a non-CET hotel?
     
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  3. Chuck2009x

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    First decide where you want to stay on your anniversary.

    If it's Flamingo, in October, do all your play at CET joints.

    If it's Cosmo, Bellagio, Aria, etc., either stay one night or not at all, and load up on play on one day/night. And if it's one of the MGM properties, don't play at any of their other properties on that trip.
     
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  4. adbynot01

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    Ok,
    1. Must be the last if any offers from last yr.
    2. She is just familiar with the Flamingo but we have stayed at other places and I know she would love Cosmo.
    3. I figured that would be the biggest bang for the buck.
     
  5. adbynot01

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    Sounds smart, the reason I was asking is because 2yrs ago I wasn't staying at Aria but managed 50k through row #802. Most was done in 1 day but some nights on my way back I would pop in and quick hit it too. I never saw any kind of good offer off that play and perhaps it was the short play days that screwed it up.
     
  6. DaiLun

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    Well, keep in in mind that the economy has improved from 2 years ago. IMHO, offers are much less than then.

    For CET, I'm currently BIG on Harrahs. Not as elegant as CP and they've done a great job at remodeling the Valley Tower suites.

    mLife or Cosmo, never stayed in a "luxury" room so I can't comment.

    I agree with Chuck2009x, first, pick the property, if CET, then play doesn't really matter, but mLife, it does and you are best to spend the MOST (if not all) of your play there.
     
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  7. adbynot01

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    Ok, if Cosmo is where I want to be, the Cosmo is where I play. Now, should I push as much in one day and be done considering I'm not staying there?
    Going to look at the level I'm at and where I feel comfortable getting to.
     
  8. Chuck2009x

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    I would go as big as you're comfortable with, all on one day/night. I do $4,000 - $4,500 a night on slots when I stay there and I get 4 night offers with freeplay and resort credit.

    I'd be aiming for the equivalent of $4,000 on slots. It might not take quite that much to get a 3 night offer, but I have no idea how they decide how many nights to offer (other than if you maintain that average over 4 nights they figure you're good for 4 nights) And obviously no guarantee, but I think that level should do it.

    If an Identity Point at the base level is $2.50 coin in on slots, then the VP equivalent ($6/point) would be around $9,600 coin in on VP. I know @tringlomane has said Cosmo uses the exact theo of a VP machine to determine comps, so there's some variability in that coin-in estimate, I just don't know how to judge it.

    If that's either just plain too high, or maybe tough to reach because you really like playing hi-vol games, you might want to consider skipping Cosmo in October, trying to get casino rate for your anniversary trip and then play there at your normal level on that trip and take whatever back end you can get.

    Unless you get lucky playing, the 2nd way will probably be cheaper. I mean, think about what your loss on $9,600 coin in could be during an average-to-poor session, it might be $1,000 - $1,500 or more. Not sure it makes sense to risk that in hopes of getting a good comp offer, when it might only cost you $600 - $750 or less to book a Terrace Studio straight up for 3 nights if you can catch one of their best publicly available offers or get casino rate.
     
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  9. tringlomane

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    Yeah most of the games he likely plays varies between 2 and 3% theo, which means means anywhere from $13,333 to $20,000 coin-in a day for $400 worth of theo, which would cover a room at least.
     
  10. DaiLun

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    Actually, Chuck2009x suggestion makes more sense to me now that I think about it.

    If you are not a regular Las Vegas visitor, IMHO it doesn't really make sense to "play in advance" for comps.

    My suggestion would be:

    1)Pick the property for your anniversary trip
    2)Play there at your own pace
    3)For your anniversary trip, book the room that you want, and take the rate that you are offered
    4)Play there at your own pace, and take whatever you can get on the back end.
     
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  11. adbynot01

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    Think you both make sense. I usually only go once per year now so maybe paying upfront and seeing what I get comped off at the end seems the smartest play.
     
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