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Table Games Right way to throw dice

Discussion in 'Table Games' started by Ruark, Jul 7, 2020.

  1. Ruark

    Ruark Low-Roller

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    I'm not a big craps player, and sometimes I have a problem with the dice bouncing off the table. Can you give any tips on how to throw them? It really pisses off the boxmen.
     
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  2. AyDee

    AyDee is getting too old for this

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    Generally speaking, you want a consistent arc to somewhere around the other ends come/passline, close enough that the bounce hits the wall and doesn't go "over the lumber, no number".
    Tables vary in bounciness, so it takes some getting used to, also if you get too excited, the adrenal response may give you more kick to your throw than you're used to..

    Longer tables, especially if you are used to a shorter one tend to be a problem.

    At one point I had like 3 boxmen, 1 boxwoman hassling me about hitting the wall (the guy next to me was cleaning up), and I couldn't help but either throw short or over.

    Don't get shook if it goes over, it beats a SO, ask for same dice if you want. The table generally likes that.

    A consistent routine of breathing, maybe setting, and trying to make every throw absolutely consistently IMO is a great practice to learn. Even if it's all completely random it also looks to everyone else as if you know what you are doing, especially if you hit a run.

    (let's not have the setting discussion here, it's been done, I am talking about it as a factor in things you always do every time you roll, skip it if you want)
     
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  3. Chuck2009x

    Chuck2009x VIP Whale

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    Don't throw high or fast. Aim for the middle of the Come box at the other end.

    Maybe 1/3rd to 1/2 the time only one of my die will hit a wall & occasionally neither, but no crew or box has ever given me any shit about it. I don't take any time fiddling with the dice; whatever way the stick pushes them to me, I just pick them up with thumb and index finger and throw.
     
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  4. topcard

    topcard Celebrating 40 Years of Vegas Trips in 2020!

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    I don't arc my throws...at least, not much, anyway.
    I typically use what most would call a "line-drive" type of throw with a very slight arc, and I typically aim for the back-right corner. The dice usually land first, and then hit the back wall & bounce around to the left, then backwards toward the "Field" bet area.
    I very rarely have dice leave the table, (however, I have bounced into pass-line & odds bets a few times!)

    Aiming for the curved corner seems to work pretty well at keeping the dice on the table....now, of course if you throw a 98 MPH fastball down there, it's going to go flying! Use the Roy Oswalt 50 MPH change-up!
    ;)
    :beer:
     
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  5. pressitagain

    pressitagain VIP Whale

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    I try to land the dice around 4 to 10 inches from the back wall. My throw is a slow arc.

    I’ve been playing for close to 30 years. I get in trouble every now and then. It has more to do with miserable dealers than a shitty throw...
     
  6. Here2Learn

    Here2Learn Low-Roller

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    Change where you stand at the table. I had that issue in the corners but moved close to the stick man and found my groove.
     
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  7. Ten_On_The_End

    Ten_On_The_End High-Roller

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    I toss the dice right handed so I like to be on the right side of the stickman before the corner. If you're a southpaw you'll probably like the left side. Everybody has "too tall to call" throws every now and then. Part of the game.
     
  8. Electroguy563

    Electroguy563 Over-Fried Gambler

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    If you have a favorite casino then eventually you will get used to the tables. The very basic instruction as to how to throw the dice is to throw it so it hits the back wall.

    However way you do it is up to you. If you want to throw in a high arc, chances are if you are not practiced enough you will throw it off the table. Even if you are, your practiced throw might not work at another table. I've experienced this my past trip when I played at South Point for the first time. My practiced throw I use at the Cal tables Downtown ended up over the bouncy table at South Point 98% of the time. Length of table, bounciness or lack thereof are factors you must be prepared to face if playing at strange tables. In contrast, the tables at Sunset Station were like throwing on plywood. No bounce at all.

    I believe the "line drive" approach is best, which is what @topcard mentioned. I use this method when my usual throw doesn't work.
     
  9. AyDee

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    The first time I ever played craps at the MSS, as a rookie, I didn't know what I was doing and had the wildest, fastest, out of control line drive into the corner throw. It was as random as random could be..
    I had a few rolls so good, for the rest of the trip, at MSS or Cal, I had 4 separate random people from the table, in separate occasions stop and give me props then walk off telling their spouses/friends about how crazy my rolls looked. I think they were backhanded throws too.
    Thanks for reminding me,
    I need to bring that line drive back into my arsenal!
     
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  10. NeonTurtle14

    NeonTurtle14 Hot Dogs and Buns

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    My strategy for throwing dice... the INSTANT the box man pushes them to me, I grab em and roll em hard down the table - not toss/arc them. I just reach and chuck em, IMMEDIATELY. They always roll, they always hit the back wall (or side wall, whatever), sometimes the force makes one or both roll halfway back down the table. I don't bother trying to find a rhythm or setting them in a certain way, I feel like that's all voodoo headgames. I don't worry about if I'm hitting hands, chips, anything (I know some consider this bad juju... if that's the case get out of the way when they push the dice out!).... Just roll em hard I say!
     
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  11. vsop

    vsop Low-Roller

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    So long as your motion doesn't mimic...feeding the chickens...you are golden...:beer:
     
  12. 4Eyes

    4Eyes Low-Roller

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    Four Rules:
    One hand only
    Never hold the dice above the table rim
    Never toss the dice higher than any dealer's eyes
    Like sex, try to hit the back wall
     
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  13. Calder

    Calder High-Roller

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    Yeah, but it increases the chance of a seven-out to one in six.

    If someone's hands are in the layout, I'm aiming for him. As far as I'm concerned, this is pratically free rolling, a chance to teach an idiot a painful lesson.

    If I hit him and make the point, the table is relieved and gives him an earful. If it's a seven-out, the table comes down on the offender all the harder.
     
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  14. vsop

    vsop Low-Roller

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    Better yet, just chuck one die at the "offender" and hold on to the other die... zero chance of a seven out and objective accomplished...
     
  15. mbely1000

    mbely1000 Low-Roller

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    As an experienced craps player I can confidently advise you that if you are at a casino where rolling the dice off of the table pisses off the boxmen then you should play somewhere else. Polite, efficient and friendly dealers are not hard to find in Vegas. No one wants to play in a game where they are scolded like children from the employees. Any casino that allows employees like that to work there will not be in business long, especially in this environment of extreme competition for players and gambling dollars.

    But to answer your question, the best way is to throw the dice is to try to hit the very bottom of the back wall and don't arc the dice too high. Better to throw too hard than too soft.
     
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