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Resorts World's Cashless System/App

Discussion in 'Casino Industry & Development' started by Sonya, Jun 16, 2021.

  1. dmr

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    I'm sure they will gladly take your cash.

    Also remember that we in certain geographic areas already had (still have?) gaming where cash was not used, as in many of the casinos, both native and civilian, in the Midwest, when they first allowed them, were tokens/chips only and the machines did not accept US coins/bills. You took a trip to the cage and exchanged real money for tokens and vice-versa. Some of them (Kansas City for a while) could only give you so much in chips/tokens each day.
     
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    I hope we can eventually connect slot machines with my credit cards and checking/saving accounts. While we're at it, it'll be super awesome if every Buffalo pull can come out of my house's equity. And I would like each of my blackjack hands be paid for by one share of stock from my brokerage account. Imagine the convenience!!!
     
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  3. dmr

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    OUCH!

    That's what I'm afraid that they will eventually be able to implement. I normally have a great sense of self-discipline on spending and buying, but at a casino and after many beverages it's easy to say WTF and keep playing/losing.
     
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    I have no interest in this. Doesn't seem any more advantageous to me than cash or credit cards. But I know there's a lot of younger people into this kind of thing so I understand why they want to appeal to that demographic.
     
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  5. BlueBellThunder

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    Id be interested to know if they will allow cash in the machines or tables. While I’m sure they will, I did one go to a sort of cashless casino. It was Turning Stone in the 90’s. You put cash on your players club for the slots, and when you were done playing and cashed out, the credits went back on your card. What made it a pain was if you say loaded 100, if you lost it, you’d have to go to the cashier and reload your card. Personally I didn’t like it, nor do I like the idea of using cashless payments for the tables or slots. I bring half my bankroll in cash, the other half on an atm card that I use for gaming only. I’ve only did this system the last 2 Vegas trips, and I’ve never touched the atm card. Before this, I brought what I was willing to lose in cash, set a daily loss limit, and not once in 20 or so trips went broke before it was time to go home. I charge meals to the room. If it’s a restaurant that I can’t charge to the room. I use a credit card, and tip in cash. I get 3% back on travel and restaurants, so it adds up. I know why RW is doing this, but they shouldn’t forget the over 40 crowd that may not like this. And for the last 2 years I’ve done most of my gambling cashless on the phone, as NJ is one of the few states to have online gaming.
     
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    I actually just read the article. It doesn’t specify if using cash in the slots is an option. Again I assume it will be, but who knows. I don’t see myself giving them much play, because a basic room on opening weekend is 450 a night. I’m a low roller so I don’t think I’ll earn comped rooms, maybe a discount. On my next trip, which is who knows when, I’ll definitely get a players card, hope for a future teaser offer. I’m looking forward to TR’s from the first visitors.
     
  7. SoCalMon

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    I will only give them a shot ONLY if it works like cosmo and most of the downtown casinos where you can get offers and use the free play without a hotel stay. Thats my motivation.
     
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    Came here today because I knew there would be a thread on this with varying opinions!

    I love the idea of using a cashless system to pay for meals, drinks by the pool, spa services, etc. I love the idea of a digital player's card, and the OPTION to add a set amount of money.

    I don't like the idea of linking it to my checking account, CC, etc. for the reasons others mentioned, including too much chance of going full degen & a concern for the security of my accounts. The more places/apps/companies that have my card and/or account numbers, the more likely there's fraud & theft. Everybody wants to have their own app these days and it's getting to be a bit much with every single app needing my account numbers.

    A question that someone else brought up - what about tipping? I've only ever tipped cocktail waitresses in cash, and I try to tip bartenders/servers in cash too if possible. What happens when all of the people my age are using the cashless app and didn't bring anything to tip with? Will there be a way to specifically tip MY cocktail waitress? Or will it go into a pool for all of the waitresses at the end of the night? Or will there not be an option and they are just SOL a lot more often?

    I'm already signed up for a player's card and I'll be there for the grand opening next week. Depending on how I feel I might put $25 on the digital card to see how it goes. But I'm not linking my entire bank account.
     
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    I like the idea of an app.

    In an environment where I make many, many room charges in a day, it gets old after a while. What's the room number? Tower? Your last name? ID? That's not going through. What? You said K, not C? Oh, let me try again. OK, what tower was it? I can't get this to go through. Oh, I forgot the Seven Stars discount. Wait a minute, what was the room number? Oh you're using a voucher too? How do you spell your last name? With a T or a B? Wait a minute, the system is down. Hold on...almost there...Just let me see your ID again and I'll try to look it up that way. Bear with me...Got it! Just go ahead and sign these 4 huge receipts for me...and don't forget a big tip, there is a place for that right under the mandatory service charge :)

    Makes me willing to try an app, assuming it will facilitate room charges and already know your room number, status, etc.

    I also feel like cashless gaming is coming and will be the standard sooner rather than later. This will give us a chance to see what it will look and feel like.
     
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  10. Vegas24_7

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    Cashless is the way of the future. I don't plan on using digital as I prefer cash but I do fear that this paves the way for a property to go entirely cashless one day. Look at how slot machines don't have coins anymore? That would be painful if it ever went that way as many of the best experiences at a casino is seeing, hearing and feeling that cash in your hands. Dare I say the smell of cash? Hehe. Bottom line is I'm not a fan of digital cash at a casino but it will most definitely be the way of the future.
     
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    Use cash so rarely in everyday life these days even pre-lockdown, especially since the contactless system took over. I'll give it a shot for sure. Thinking that five years from now, any casino not having one (especially with the horrific ATM fees) would be turning down a big chunk of revenue... lets see.
     
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    Well, anyone who reads the Non-Vegas chat forum knows I'm not using Venmo, so I'm sure as heck not connecting a casino card to my credit card or bank account. If it could be pre-loaded with a specific amount of, say, CASH, maybe. But otherwise, nope. Though I'm not a huge gambler, so honestly, the gaming component doesn't bother me too much - I choose another casino, or I stop gambing if all casinos go this route. I imagine that makes me different from most VMB members, though....
     
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  13. bubbakitty

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    The spa, restaurants, the gift shops, bars etc. Don’t you already have the option of cashless?
    Doesn’t anyone say “Charge it to room #…”. Thanks. Here’s something for you….
     
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    I use Venmo but I have my Discover card linked to it in case there is anything weird that happens since Discover is the easiest company to dispute charges with. It's really convenient to use when you are doing things like buying tickets for a group of people and they can just send you the money via Venmo.
     
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    Cashless app and assless chaps, neither peak my curiosity. Perhaps I'm the wrong demographic.
     
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    A lot of unhappy people commenting on twitter saying it is really easy for a gambler to lose track of their money and then have nothing left. This is not good. and what about charges for using that feature? With cash/voucher you have control. I could see going to a machine and putting cash in for a voucher and then when that is gone to leave, but I do not see the mobile paying thing being successful at all. I cannot use it and I wont.
     
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  18. wordster

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    If they make it that easy to get your money, I'm fairly certain they'll be giving you discounts to use this. Heck, I can imagine a day where they give us tier credit multipliers if the money comes straight from your bank account.
     
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    I won’t miss carrying cash around and I already give the casino my bank and personal info when I open a line of credit. I guess there isn’t much difference in the appeal of hacking that system vs this one, so in my head the security aspect isn’t terribly different.
     
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    They still allow you to use cash or do you have to use this new system?