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Resort Fee More Than The Room Rate

Discussion in 'Misc. Vegas Chat' started by Kcitsme, May 14, 2018.

  1. Kcitsme

    Kcitsme Low-Roller

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    I was making travel plans for August in Vegas. I called Palace Station and spoke with reservations. They gave me a room quote of $24.99 plus tax with a resort fee of $34.00. At first I thought I misunderstood what he had said. I asked him to repeat it. Yes, I had heard him correctly the first time. The resort fee was almost $10 more than the room charge. I am still stunned.
     
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    Wait until the economy tanks. They will have room rates of zero, but keep the resort fee as long as they can. (Negative room rate?)
     
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  3. Lisa108

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    Yep, it's crazy. I have reservations in August as well at Excalibur for $21.99 a night with a resort fee of $39.00. Made a reservation at Harrah's for same price with same resort fee. Couldn't make up
    my mine which end of the strip I wanted to be at. Decided on Excalibur, still hanging onto the Harrah's reservation. If I didn't have to pay the resort fees, I'd keep both and crash at the closest one
    each night we're there. Resort fees are here to stay.
     
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    Think of it as $58.99 / day room with no resort fee you'll feel better.

    TomTWI
     
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    Just validates the fact it’s a scam to the uninitiated.
    I bet desk clerks in Vegas actually hate resort fees more than we do.
     
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  6. Lisa108

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    Kc, not trying to be a wiseguy, but I'm assuming that you've known about resort fees, just stunned that the fees were more than the room.
    I'm glad to hear that they're telling people upfront about the fees when they make reservations and not wait until they check in before
    telling them, Oh by the way that will be an extra fee of x-amount of dollars just for the priviledge of staying here. Most people rarely use
    the amenties that the resort fees are suppose be paying for. At least I don't.
     
  7. Kcitsme

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    No offense taken Lisa. I have known about the resort fees since they started but it is the fact that they are more than the room. If they had said $60 a night, I would have felt that I got an honest rate and I was not being extorted. The crazy thing is many hotels are offering great rates for the summer but charging heavy resort fees. I have a rental car and do travel around a lot when I am there. If I am having a bad day gambling where I am staying I just go to another casino. I have stopped visiting many of the strip casinos because I don't want to pay all those parking fees each time I stop to gamble. The way I see it, I am going to the hotels to shop, eat, gamble or see a show, and now they want me to pay more for the privilege of spending my money in their hotel. Crazy! DMR, you are right, the economy is not guaranteed and changes will come. It will be interesting to see what will happen then. TomTWI has the right idea but I need the hotel to add the room fee and resort fee together before they give me the price. It is less shocking if hotels make the addition rather than having the customer see the unfairness of it all.
     
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    Woah, $34 resort fee for a lower tier hotel? I don't get these absurdly high resort fees. In AC, they're $10, lol. And, you get the same perks! Someone mentioned Excalibur, I still can't get over how the cheapest hotel on the strip is charging $39 bucks...makes no sense. MGM is the worst with resort fee rates.

    If anything, they should let you opt out of paying the fee in returning for the following:
    - No local calls
    - No free newspaper
    - No pool access
    - No gym access

    At least then you justify the cost....and, if people don't want to use pools, you keep it emptier for the people who are willing to pay, lol.
     
  9. mikel123

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    One of the reasons hotels charge resort fees is because OTAs charge a commission on the rate, but not any mandatory fees. Another reason is so they appear more towards the top when consumers search by price. A solution might be to offer anyone who books direct a "waived" resort fee. This would allow them to include it in the rate and offer a better deal on the whole (since they're not paying commission). TI does something similar with their TV ad special.
     
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    Are we sure that the $34.00 isn't the total?, $60 seems a little high for the palace.
     
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    I acknowledge your point about the "advertised perks of a resort fee", but you're not really going to equate Atlantic City to Las Vegas? Are you?
     
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    I verified the resort fee online and it is, in fact, $34 for the resort fee alone.

    Nope, never. That being said, the point on AC having a lower resort fee is valid. Room rates can be adjusted for the "vegas tax." The notion that the resort amenities are greater at Palace Station than a top tier AC hotel is absurd. Just because it's Vegas, doesn't mean the resort fee should be more than the room. Like any other city, the room rate should reflect the supply and demand.
     
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    I've wondered why they haven't done this already. If the 3rd party travel sites tolerate the hotels moving up in search listings by posting fake low rates that don't include the resort fee and simultaneously shield that money from commissions to the 3rd party sites, why not go all the way? I'm guessing there's a breaking point at which the 3rd party sites will finally say "enough is enough", but we don't seem to have reached it yet.
     
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    You can pay money to boost your position on the travel sites / pay for ads that show the "true price." It's dumb for them to trade on price and hit people with the backhanded resort fee. To be fair, $60 for a clean room is pretty solid so why are they so afraid to market it accordingly?
     
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    Las Vegas tourism is down by nearly 4 million folks in the 2017 numbers. They're going to start feeling it soon...

    Per the LA Times:
    "In January, total visitation to the city dropped 3.3%, while gaming revenue from the Strip slumped by 8.89%, the steepest percentage drop among all Nevada gambling markets for the month — and the biggest for the Strip since the Oct. 1 [incident]"
     
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    Actually, the drop was from 42.94 million to 39.01 million, so just a tad under 4 million (not 10). That doesn't, however, make the drop less concerning, just not the "calamity" so many of you seem to be hoping for. It's true, I believe simple economics will eventually take some of the starch out of this fee crazy era Vegas finds itself immersed in. 2016 was a record... nothing goes to the moon forever.

    Here's some updated stats for those interested:

    http://www.lvcva.com/includes/content/images/media/docs/ES-Mar-2018.pdf
     
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    I think resort fees are here to stay. I don't think they will ever be combined with room rates. The days are gone for staying at casino's and only paying for a room, or flying and not having to pay for a checked bag.
    Las Vegas hotels are still cheap even with the resort fees. Last time I stayed in Biloxi, I stayed in a local hotel, not a chain hotel and still paid 80 dollars. It's like staying here where I live on the beach for less than a 100 dollars
    a night is a steal.
     
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    You're still only paying for a room. It's just an accounting procedure.

    There is a solution to this "problem": Quit staying with hoteliers who charge this fee.

    And don't just vote with your feet and wallet, communicate with them. Tell them what you are doing and why, in writing, via a phone call, on social media.
     
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    Lisa, not attacking you, but there are some flaws to your points.

    As long as there are holdouts on the resort fee (i.e. Four Queens, Casino Royale), consumers have the choice to avoid it. Also, Southwest still does not charge for 2 checked bags per person - again, consumer's choice.

    Vegas has always been cheaper and for a good reason. You don't go to a beach hotel and leave a few thousand dollars behind in a machine in the lobby. Also, according to Smith Travel Research (2013), there are 169,100 hotel rooms in the greater Las Vegas area. That's a lot of supply for the demand, which lowers rates. To put it in perspective, New York City has almost 63,000 less rooms at 106,000 and Biloxi didn't even make the top 10 list (#10 was Phoenix, with 62,000).
     
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  20. tmoney25

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    Here's a deal you can't refuse!!!! We'll pay you $10 per day to come stay with us*

    *Resort fee of $65/day applies.
     
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