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Questions about using player's club card for table games

Discussion in 'Comps' started by Bluegrass527, Dec 7, 2019.

  1. Bluegrass527

    Bluegrass527 Tourist

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    I was wondering when and how often to use one's player's club card for table games--particularly blackjack. As I understand it, you give it to the dealer when you first cash in, and they enter the amount you cashed in for to the system.

    But, if you have to switch tables for some reason and your chips are less than what you had cashed in for, should you give your player's card to the dealer at the new table? I am not sure how that factors in--will it lower one's average?

    Also, with comps in general, can slot play and table games be combined in terms of consideration for comps? Or is it just mostly that if you want comps for table games you're going to have to focus on those and then only play slots some on the side?

    Thanks.
     
  2. fenway68

    fenway68 VIP Whale

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    I have heard it is always better to buy in again for cash and to keep it consistent (ie you bought in for $1k buy in again for $1k), and if you buy in with cheques, to color up before you leave and rebuy with the larger denomination cheques. Not sure how much this helps the tracking tbh...someone will know better, but thought i'd help get the conversation started.
     
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  3. tringlomane

    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    Yes give your card again.
     
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  4. Kachow

    Kachow Low-Roller

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    Comps are combined, but be aware for comps that some games count a lot more towards comps than others. In general, slot players are more valuable to the casino, followed by table players, followed by Video Poker players. That being said, some table games are highly Valuable to the casino, such as roulette. Obviously the comp value the casino attaches to the player is pretty much directly attributable to a few factors. Chief among those are the games played (high house edge more valuable), the time spent playing those games on average per day, and the average bet of the player on each hand or pull of the slot or push of the button. The casino knows exactly how much money you cycle through their machines and they keep an eye on your bets to figure out how much money they will theoretically or actually make off you based on your time playing their games.

    In order to be sure you’re clocked into the system you should just give your card to the dealer everytime you sit down. If you’re just shifting to the next table over the pit critter if he’s there will probably just clock you in at the next table.
     
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  5. vsop

    vsop Low-Roller

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    Generally, you want to give your player's card every time to play at a table...just as you would want to log in with your card every time you play slots and change slot machines...
    If you buy in at a table game and lose part of your buy in and then decide to move to another table, I would suggest buying in at the new table with the same amount as the original table....I don't bother with "coloring up" if it was a losing session, especially if I'm going to another table...I don't necessarily want the casino to "calculate" my loss at the table... I'll keep the balance of the chips in my pocket and at the new table, I'll buy in with the same amount as the original table...
     
  6. FullPay

    FullPay When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro

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    Way back in the day a host told my friend that he needed to be at the table for a minimum of 45 minutes to be credited for an hour of playing time, anything less would be ignored. Not sure if it still applies, but it makes sense that they wouldn’t care about quick hits. Also, if I’m changing craps tables in the same area I’ll let the pit boss know so I’ll stay on the clock.
     
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  7. tringlomane

    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    Pretty sure CET doesn't care. But i never proved it thoroughly. I've been rated for a 30 minute $10 flat bet session if BJ before. 6 Tier for that...lol, which sounds about correct.
     
  8. JulianC

    JulianC Amateur

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    Every little bit counts. Also, your numbers "fit the curve" of CET giving 1 TC for every $0.50 of table games theo (a figure that I personally base on approximate slot theo).
     
  9. makikiboy

    makikiboy VIP Whale

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    I'm not sure about the other casino companies but at the downtown Boyd casinos, if you change tables you just need to tell the pit boss that you changed tables or you are changing tables and the pit boss will just move over your account to the new table. I do the same thing for crap tables. I didn't know they move your account but at the MSS crap table the pit boss noticed me moving tables and he just moved my account over to the new table.


    Note that this will only work if you do it before they close your account on the prior table. If you walk around, take a restroom break or the pit boss doesn't see you changing tables and closes off your prior activity then you need to give your player's card again and they will rate you as a new entering player.
     
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  10. Bluegrass527

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    Thanks. Compared to slots, table gaming comps for a low-roller player seem relatively mysterious. I know I've gotten comp offers for rooms in rate calendars playing relatively small amounts of coin in of a few hundred dollars and so I was wondering if that's possible with table play.