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Question for parents of teens

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  1. Joe

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    We were in our favorite watering hole this afternoon and got into a conversation with a bartender we know who works full time there. Anyway, it started by us asking if they had Directv or cable at the bar. Her reply...I have no clue. She went on about at home they have no cable, no Internet and her kids aged 11 & 13 have no phones. She went on to say that her kids complain they are the only ones in their classes without phones.

    I don't have a problem with no phones, but I think for safety sake, kids should have one. But my real question is without Internet at home, doesn't this put kids at a disadvantage for homework, research and porn-just kidding. They live in a rural area without easy access to a library.

    Not judging. Phones are expensive. Cable is expensive and so is Internet access. I have no idea what her financial situation is like.

    Just wondering if parents of teens have an opinion. Does not having Internet put them at a disadvantage in education?
     
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    No internet would put kids at a HUGE disadvantage in my opinion. I am not a parent but just recently out of college.. and in high school and college I turned most of my homework in by computer at home with the internet.
    the material you learn should be covered in the books your given at class so in theory you should not need a computer and regular internet access. But reading about certain topics online helps me (and probably others) learn it at a deeper level and understand it better. It adds depth. In many cases I believe it helped me relate to subjects like science and anatomy better than a text book could.
     
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    If they have Internet access at school--and have enough time to do research, classwork, and enrichment activities there--I believe they would not be at a serious disadvantage compared to their peers--yet. If they get to the point where they have teachers that expect a ton of work outside of school, then they may start running into some difficulties.

    Right now the disadvantage may actually be for the parents' side of things. E-mail is the quickest way to get ahold of our minions' teachers and to hear back from them in a timely manner. There's a lot of information that schools are putting online these days--announcements, schedules, grades, Facebook posts, etc. There is a ton of resources for parents out there. And also VMB! :D

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    My daughter is in 7th grade, and several of her assignments are online based. So if she has homework she has to log onto their classroom site and complete it. Our schools give each kid their own chromebook also for both in school and homework at home. So not having internet at home would be a huge disadvantage here at least.
     
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    No kids here, but sometimes I think it could be a plus to have them study through books and libraries versus a quick 10 minute search on the internet.

    The biggest thing in ensuring it's not "garbage in" is to know your sources---and this is a lesson that comes with age. Even with books, you need to do some footwork on ensuring it's a reliable source. With the internet? Valid/factual information is mixed in with so many unreliable sources, I personally would have no problem with kids having to hit learning more "old school."

    I work in tech, and love technology, but sometimes making things too accessible can be a detriment. Even ignoring reliable/unreliable, there is something for the "long road" in learning. Look at the math foundations of kids from other countries who DON'T grow up with scientific calculators. Is it harder for them? Absolutely. But the result is an incredible foundation in whatever they're studying. Same goes with digging through history books. You have to read a bunch of other stuff to get to what you need, but you're building a huge knowledge-base along the way.

    But, it could be a dying option. With the statement on chromebooks, log ins, etc., that's a great point. Unfortunately it could be a hurdle not having the internet, but I still love the idea of physical books for learning.

    But I also walked five miles to school with no shoes, in the dark, in 10 foot snow drifts...after churning butter and plucking the chickens to ready them for dinner. ;)
     
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    With payphones all but gone, the kids at least need a flip phone for safety. As for internet, assuming its a low income household, msny cable providers have basic inernet plans for cheap for eligible customers. It used to be that telephone service was subsidized for rural and/or low income people. A lot of tthose programs have mophed into cell and internet serrvice.
     
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    I don't think my kids could do their homework without a huge hassle if we didn't have the internet. A lot of the teachers use something called Google classroom, and they get a lot of group projects with other kids all over the city, so it would be very difficult. Plus they get to submit work that is due down to the very last minute of the day, not just by the end of the school day LOL. They could go to the public library, but again, not as convenient as home

    I do wish they would consult actual books more.
     
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    Those parents probably don't let their kids get vaccinated either!

    Or was the gal Amish or something like that?

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    If you went on your local school's website and pulled up a counselor's email and posed the question to them, I am sure they would tell you it is indeed a huge disadvantage. You are going to need the internet to do that though!:poke: My children have assignments that are due by midnight on many days and i don't have any libraries open that late near me. It is ubiquitous and has been for a while now, and isn't going away any time soon. Any parent, that has had the internet go out before a kid's major assignment will very quickly understand the importance of the internet. I have personally tried my best to help my kid's friends that have had issues with access but some kids fall through the cracks for any number of issues.
    Regarding phones, If you can collect some older phones that still work after you upgrade, give them and the requisite chargers to any parent you may know that can't afford them for their kids. 911 still works on those, maybe even give them some free wireless access depending on the phone. THAT would be a useful tip to the bartender next time.
     
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    Yes it does place the teens at a disadvantage. We have 2 teenage boys in high school. Just the other day, my youngest had to submit his course selection for next year on line and then print a copy. He could have done this at school but we were able to research together.

    In terms of cell phone, we gave our boys cell phones at the age of about 13 - it was when they had to get to and from school on their own.

    I worry also about the peer relationship piece and what the impact might be if they are "left out" of the conversations. We monitor our teens on-line and are comfortable with how they use it - they are often talking to peers while surfing together. This is now how they socialize. Not the way I socialized as a teen but again the way I got through high school was different than my parents...the world evolves.
     
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    Does not having Internet put them at a disadvantage in education?
    HELL YES! More and more schools are giving assignments based on having to use the internet.
     
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    I have Two high school kids - without internet, they couldn't possibly do homework........besides I COULDNT LEAVE WITHOUT INTERNET MYSELF... I need my fixing on VMB daily. lol
     
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    Here's another one for Google classroom. My son is a junior in hs and nearly every thing goes through that. Plus there are many group assignments assigned and the kids can all work on them at once and actually even see what the other kids are doing on the same assignment. They can collaborate and modify simultaneously.

    Not to mention, nearly all his "text books" are on line. He only has one physical book that he actually uses at home. So yea, I'd say no internet would be crippling for school work ( plus who knows what else...)
     
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    If the issue is financial, that one thing, but even at that and as stated many times above I agree it would put these kids at a HUGE disadvantage in today's world. I occasionally meet people who are philosophically just opposed to TV, internet, cell-phones, etc. and do not want the "intrusion" on their lives. It's their choice, but personally I think that's weird and weird kids come from weird parents.
     
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    Thanks for the replies. That is more or less what both my wife and I were thinking, but I just wanted other opinions since we have no kids. Well, even if we did have kids, it would have been before Internet and cell phones. There was cable though.
     
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    Well, we didn't have cable, internet or phones and we turned out OK, I think the kids will likely be better adjusted than the "normal" ones.
     
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    That's not the problem, the schools are giving assignments and the info is on the internet. Many schools assume all students have it or can get to it.
     
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    You'd be wrong.
     
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