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Table Games Pressured to tip on Table Game Progressive payouts?

Discussion in 'Table Games' started by Bondy3, Sep 3, 2020.

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  1. topcard

    topcard Vegas Has Re-Opened!

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    I typically tip $15 on a 3-card win with a straight-flush (40-to-1) - $10 for the drop & $5 on the pair-plus for the next hand.
    $10 for trips ($5 & $5).
    I did hit the mini-royal once (in clubs) and was playing the progressive. That paid me $500 (plus $200 on my PP bet) - dealer got $25 + $5 on the next hand.

    If a dealer ever told me that I should tip $100 on a $1000 progressive? I'd put the $5 out for the next hand & that's it... I'd probably also say something like, "Hope lightning strikes twice, for your sake."

    Side-note: I was playing 3-card a few years back, had $1 on the PP for the dealer & I hit a SF... so, dealer made $41 on my $240 win...17%. She comments, as she scoops up her $41, "Is that it?".
    My reply: "Yeah - 17% - that's it. Color me up"
     
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  2. Bondy3

    Bondy3 High-Roller

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    Drinks were $5 each, it was in WA state
     
  3. Bondy3

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    I agree, I was actually upset my wife Toked a black after the dealer told her to tip it. I understand our gambling budgets are separate but I felt she was bullied and she didnt think it was fair to be expected to tip a black, She was unhappy, even though she walked away up like $800 for the day, she didn't have a good time because of her progressive winning experience". would have overall had a more pleasant experience had she not won anything because the agression of the dealer/other players to get her money made her feel uncomfortable. I told her she should have reported it but she didn't want to.
     
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    A few years back there was a site called Vegas Chatter which posted an article on whether tourists are always required to tip. The complaint was that visitors from other countries don’t often tip.

    Tourists & folks living/working in Vegas commented on the article. I was shocked with the sense of entitlement from the locals. They kept saying “we live on tips and hell yeah, we expect to get tips.” These folks didn’t mention anything about good service in those rants. They didn’t acknowledge cultural differences in tipping, just saying such & such people are cheap.

    I was floored & disgusted. It changed the way I tip in Vegas, I increased the tips for good service & decreased my tips for bad. I no longer can be guilted into a nominal tip if someone sucks.
     
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  5. The Rumor

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    I would prob give a green (although I generally don't play side bets with high volatility.)

    If the dealer asked and I thought they were remotely serious, I'd have given $0 and would have told them why as I colored up. This is a local casino, I'm not an idiot, I know how to tip. I'm not paying people who can't treat a customer with basic respect.

    I've never bought a drink for another player in my life who wasn't there with me. People do beg for this sometimes when you're up at the locals. It's annoying. I'd have simply declined.
     
  6. The Rumor

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    Also, in terms of customs, in no way, shape, or form is it common to tip 10% on large jackpots, be they table, slots, or VP. It's closer to 1% than 10%.
     
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  7. bubbakitty

    bubbakitty Doing retirement again and happily so....

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    Well.......
    “Hi. My name is Stephanie and I’ll be your dealer for the next 40 minutes so if there’s anything you need just let me know”.
    “Thank you Stephanie. I’d like to order a Royal if you’ve the time...” :poker:
    “We’ll certainly. “
    BAM!!!!!!
    That’d be worth 15%:D
     
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  8. Bondy3

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    I agree about giving $0 as a tip if someone flat out tells me I need to tip. I feel like thats entitled and I dont like to reward that type of behavior. I don't like high volatility side bets but my wife does (why she plays them)

    I Also dont buy drinks for people, Ive never done it at a casino, I have done it in other situations when it was socially appropriate and it didnt feel forced. but in general im pretty cheap and I also dont drink Alcohol
     
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  9. JaDubya

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    I think the 10% is a percentage that people who work in the casino may desire/expect, so they throw that number around. I tip generously but never 10% and my slot attendant buddies are always genuinely thankful for the tip & always attentive after the tip (they check in on me).

    I mean would anyone tip $100k if they hit a $1 million jackpot? Yeah, right!
     
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  10. sinnerman

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    I am shocked. If no one said anything, I would have tipped the dealer $25 to $50. The moment the dealer said a word about expecting a tip, he doesn't get a cent out of me. Your wife is nice. I would have said "F YOU" to the dealer , the the rest of the people at the table, walked to the next table, started gambling. I might have even reported the dealer to the pit boss.
     
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  11. AllenAndRossi

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    A $1000 win is nice, but it's really nothing spectacular or earth-shattering. If you were playing a machine and hit for $1000, it wouldn't even be a handpay and no employee would be involved.

    I would have toked a green chip. That is, if the dealer didn't bring up a tip.

    In your wife's case, she should have asked to speak to the pit boss and told him/her what the dealer said.

    While I play mostly slots/vp, I've hit plenty of handpays. I've NEVER had an attendant ask for a tip or even bring up tipping. And I always tip on those.

    If it were me, I would have told the dealer I've been around casinos for decades. I'm experienced with winning and tipping. Now, would you please ask the pit boss to come over here. I would have told the pit boss what just happened. I would have said because of that, this is the first time I WON'T be tipping on a nice little win. Then I would have left the table.

    As far as the other players go, if we were all having a good time, and they were fun people, I would have bought them drinks on my own. In the case of what happened to your wife, I would have looked around the table(I'm guessing it wasn't a particularly friendly or jovial group) and said "I don't owe anybody ANYTHING. Learn some etiquette and get some class." And, of course, left.

    Seriously, $1000 isn't all that. And don't EVER tip 10% of any jackpot/handpay you might hit.
     
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    The $100 tip isn’t going to break you....lesson learned.

    Tip is a feeling, not an obligation!!!

    If the dealer made you feel good...tip what makes you feel good. Start at $20 and work your way up!!!
     
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    I was playing UTH on a cruise ship last year and I told the dealer jokingly that if I hit the progressive I would give him 10%. About 20 minutes later, I get the A and J of hearts, the dealer flips over in the first 3 cards and I get the K and and 10 of hearts. The next cards is crap. He flips over the last card and it is the Q of diamonds. So close but only a straight. I give him a tip to encourage good behavior. He asks me a few minutes later if I had hit the progressive, would I had tipped 10%? I said yes because I viewed it as found money. The progressive was close to 30k.
     
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  14. tringlomane

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    if that happened to me, maybe a green until he spoke up. Then yeah, nada.

    And of course no on the round thing.

    Now one time I was playing double STP years ago at Harrah's St. Louis where drinks aren't free, and got dealt 3 2's with a 5X. I point it out to the neighbor and he watched me. I hit it and thought it was worth ordering a beer over. Then my neighbor asked me if I'd get him a beer. I thought that was odd, but i just won $250, a beer was like $4, so I relented. It's still my biggest credit win on the game. :bang:

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    I'm trying to remember last time I won on a table. It's probably 5-6 years since I hit 4 of a kind on Let It Ride... with trips on top, so the 3-card paid too.... I think it was $1500. I probably tipped something. I throw some chips down "for the boys" when I walk away from craps up a few hundred. Otherwise, I play Pai Gow Poker... no big wins.

    Mostly I play slots. I tip the slot machine after a decent win.... it's called a backup spin.

    Only time I've ever noticed buying drinks raised was in Sparks, NV... when a big hit occurred... the other players at the table hassled the pit boss that he's supposed to send over champagne for all players. I've never seen a winner hassled.
     
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    The dealer asking for what amounts to 10% of the win is outrageous and I would hope that if I was in that position as the player I would pick-up my chips and leave with zero tip for the dealer.
     
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    On the one hand, I do agree that most frontline works really do work for tips. But there are plenty of people who either (1) come from countries where tipping is never expected, and it's not like it's printed on the receipt as in restaurants, and (2) they simply don't realize that tipping is part of the game because they're new-ish to Vegas. If they're just cheap, that's less understandable.

    I tip generously as well, and luckily have only had something like that once. Not a jackpot by any means, but I was playing roulette at NYNY, and got nothing on my first 3-4 spins. I said something offhand to my friend like, "Looks like it's not my day today." The dealer piped up and said, "That's because you're not tipping me." I colored up and left.
     
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    Interesting. So I’ve run with some whales in my days and I’ve seen a lot. Dana White of the UFC is a notorious high level BJ player. He had a series of videos a few year back about a run of sessions without a losing session. He popped the Palms in one video for what looked to be in excess of $500K. He tipped $500 to the cage and I assume about the same at the table. Take it for what it’s worth, but that’s about .2% in tips.
     
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    Dealers telling how much to tip is a scumbag move. Tips depend on service quality.
     
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    Barkley was notorious for his philosophy towards overtipping. He once tipped $25,000 on a $700,000 win, and amazingly said later that he felt bad about it after the fact and he should have done more; it's only about 3%, but that is still a ton of money and at a certain point it becomes less about the percentage, in my opinion.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/25/why-charles-barkley-always-tips-a-minimum-of-20percent.html

    There's a story in there about Shaq, as well, where he said he once asked a restaurant server how much of a tip they wanted, and the server said (probably jokingly), "How about $4,000?". And Shaq was just like, "Okay, here you go." Though for the record, that's a very different scenario than flat-out asking for a tip.
     
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