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Table Games Places with face up Pai Gow?

Discussion in 'Table Games' started by djm200, Jul 12, 2019.

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  1. djm200

    djm200 Tourist

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    We were in Vegas over Thanksgiving and discovered face up Pai Now at TI and a few other places on the strip. Does anyone know who all has it? Do any of the downtown places offer it?

    thx in advance.
     
  2. vsop

    vsop Low-Roller

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    From personal experience: Gold Coast, NYNY, Park MGM, Luxor, MB.... Since first playing "Face-Up", I've noticed that the min. bet is usually $20-$25...
     
  3. Sidekicknick

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    I've played at NYNY, Venetian, and, Palms ... all with slightly different rules. Yesterday (Sunday 7/14) the Palms had a $10 table, push on a Ace-High pai gow with a Ace-high bonus bet. Palms you could NOT win or lose to the dealer on this, always a push.

    IIRC (it was like 6 months ago) Venetian was $25 on a Sunday and pushed on a Queen high Pai-Gow but I thought you COULD still lose to the dealers Queen high pai gow but would push when you would normally win.

    NYNY was $10 too.
     
  4. VegasBJ

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    just played some this past weekend at the MGM. I believe the minimum was $15 on a Saturday afternoon
     
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    [the Palms had a $10 table, push on a Ace-High pai gow with a Ace-high bonus bet. Palms you could NOT win or lose to the dealer on this, always a push.]

    MGM was these same rules
     
  6. Luv2cruise

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    We’re in vegas mid June and played it at Mirage and Mandalay Bay, it was 15$ per hand. Also played it at four Queens downtown, not sure if it was 10$ or 15$ there. All push with ace high. It’s one of the best game to get a few free drinks while playing and not spending too much. During 4 days, played a couple of hours each day and only pushed two or three times overall.
     
  7. GeorgeJ.

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    The only PaiGow tables Palms had open were two Face Up PaiGow tables with $10 minimum this past Wednesday in the afternoon. Didn't look like they still had any regular Pai Gow tables anymore. Not a big fan of the Face Up after playing it Wednesday.
     
  8. DoctorD

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    We just got back from Vegas yesterday.

    Played face up at the Rio, Cromwell, and Flamingo.
    Didn't see at the Planet Hollywood or Caesars

    D
     
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    I agree. To me, its like playing a slot machine.

    I enjoy the mental challenge of setting some of the marginal hands. A flush with two pair... or maybe a non-suited hand like 223359J... Etc.

    With face up, your fate is sealed before you even see your cards. The last time I played Face-up (Harrah's NKC) the dealer had a K-High Pai Gow. I had AA and a bunch of junk. I broke the aces so that I won the hand... its a play you'd never make in regular Pai Gow, which is what I find pretty dopey. If they want a commission-free game to avoid trying to account for $0.25 on every $5 bet, I'd prefer they just offer a regular game where a Q-High Pai Gow (or 9-High up top) pushes the table.
     
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  10. journaljim

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    Dear @DoctorD was face up the only option at Flamingo and Cromwell? My wife will not be happy if so.
     
  11. GeorgeJ.

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    That's what I also found. The only good thing about Face Up is that you have the chance to save a bad hand by setting it a way you never would normally. Like if you had two small pairs and you knew the dealer has a straight and an Ace-King to go on top; so you split the pairs instead of playing them together so you'll at least get a push. When I played at Palms, I probably had that chance 2 or 3 times versus the 10+ that the dealer got an Ace High. A new player sat down & was talked into betting the Ace High bet; on his first hand both he & the dealer had an Ace high. So he got the 30X payout for both having an Ace High (this appears to be a crappy payout that the Palms has; rather than the typical 40X payout).
     
  12. DoctorD

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    They all had face up and regular pai gow.

    Table push on Ace high pai gow whether you would have lost or won.

    One interesting thing-
    There is no tile/token you can use for the dealer to set your hand the best way.
    You have to make the decisions and set it.

    If someone is drunk in regular pai gow, this is a nice option so the hands aren’t misplayed.

    D
     
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    Out of interest someone told me (no idea if it was just bs) that if you pushed with the dealer and you had played the bonus bet, if you pushed then you did not get paid on the bonus, so you could have a royal flush, the dealer has ace high meaning you don't get paid on the bonus, can anyone confirm if this is correct or not, thanks.
     
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    When i was playing, I thought they checked your hand for the bonus bet still.
    Thought the main bet is the auto push.

    D
     
  15. vsop

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    At the casinos that I've played Face up PGP, a winning bonus bet is paid even if the dealer has an Ace high pai gow hand...
    Count me in the "minority", I guess, but I won't play regular PGP if there is a Face up PGP table, because I get to see the dealer's hand before I set my hand and there is no commission...
     
  16. GeorgeJ.

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    At Palms, the dealer asked (if he had an Ace High Pai Gow) if anyone had a bonus; and paid it if any of the players had a bonus hand (that was going to push because of the dealer Ace high)
     
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    Thanks for the info, that's good to know, as far as I can see, this is a no brainer to play and something I will be playing in a couple of weeks.
     
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