the rough was bad for us amateurs. About 4" + of rye overseed. Very wet in the morning, thick, and juicy. It isn't bad for the Pro's who are used to this type of rough and have way more swing speed. Really couldn't see your ball in the rough unless you were standing right over it. Yes, first Pro-Am experience. It was OK, but a great experience. Hideki didn't say much, neither gave any tips. Pretty quiet unless you initiated the conversation. Harman seemed like a good guy. Course was way tougher than normal. greens running at 13, added an internediate cut to the fairways to pinch in some already narrow fairways. Greens were in perfect shape. Seems surreal to see the course on TV and know every nook and cranny. The Pro's were having trouble reading the greens on wednesday since they were not familiar with the course. Lots of very subtle breaks. Saw quite a few misreads. I was gonna say something a couple of times, but figured they are the Pro's. I actually played pretty well considering the tough course. Us 3 amateurs played a Shamble, where we pick our best drive, and then play our own ball on the way in. We could only use the Pro's ball on the Par 3's. The other 2 guys in my group were a 7 and a 9 HC. We used my drive more often than not. Birdied 4 using my drive and making about a 25' putt. Made par on quite a few other holes with my drive, and then my ball all the way in. Par's were a good score with the length we were playing and all the pinched fairways and rough. Only lost 1 ball and that was due to not going to look for it as I pulled my drive on to the other side of the creek on 15, and the drive we were going to use was on the whole other side of the fairway, so I didn't bother with it. Walking this course is an endeavor when the course was really not designed for walking. Walking the course is not an option during regular play. It surely helped with not having a caddy that previous experience helped with course management and knowing the greens. Didn't really blow up on any holes. Great day of golf overall. I have probably played the course close to 500 rounds. On one of the more recent tourneys that we played there, one of the guys in my group asked how many times a year I played out at Shadow. I thought about it for a second, and said "maybe 40-50 rounds a year". My caddy immediately said " I'll take the over on that one", lol. The Pro's inside the clubhouse also said one time that except for the guys who work for MGM or live locally, that I am out there more than any other player. I don't know if that is a good thing or bad thing? I have been playing there consistently for the past 10 years, with 2-3 rounds a year from 1995-2010. When anyone asks what is my home course, I always say Shadow Creek, even though it is not a country club, and you can't post scores there. Love it out there. Everyone who is a golfer should try it at least one time!!