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Offer Dilemma - Bellagio vs Luxor (don't laugh)

Discussion in 'Comps' started by Chuck2009x, Nov 7, 2016.

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  1. Chuck2009x

    Chuck2009x VIP Whale

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    I usually hate this kind of thread, lol, but I have no choice this time.

    I got an unexpectedly high Corporate Offer last week.

    For Fri & Sat Jan 20 & 21, they were offering a Tower Premier Suite at Luxor + $250 in Resort Credit. I always wanted to try that suite, so I snapped it up.

    Usually I don't have much availability at Bellagio or Aria, so I didn't even check them. But I just happened to now. Aria - just a regular room. Bellagio will give me a Salone or a Bellagio Suite. Whoa. Only $100 in Resort Credit. Same amount of freeplay.

    Here's my problem.

    I'm trying to ease my way out of MGM properties. I want to have a lower play level to get good enough offers to fill in a couple of nights at the beginning of trips. Which is why I snapped up the Luxor offer; Luxor was my target for that strategy. And I'm going to play at a Luxor level regardless of where I stay.

    If I stay at Bellagio, I'll have to make a trip down to Luxor anyway to get on their radar. The suite I get at Bellagio will probably be in the Spa Tower, and if I take the Bellagio Suite, it'll probably be on the back side. Of course, it's not like the Luxor suite will have a killer view either.

    The rack rate for the Luxor suite is $514, the rack rate for the Bellagio suite is $1,044. I won't really miss the $150 I'd be giving up in Resort Credit. So it's convenience + $150 extra resort credit at Luxor vs $500 more in room value at Bellagio. The suites are both 1,050 SF.

    I guess I need someone to tell me this is a no brainer. Is it?
     
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  2. sindustry

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    I can't really help you decide, but I would lie if I said I didn't recently consider booking Luxor too...just because. I got a Luxor offer for a Super Suite, $900 FP and unspecified F/B. I wanted to book to take advantage of the FP and F/B, and to see what this Super Suite is. However, I keep talking myself out of it, as I'm scared they are just trying to push me over to Luxor and making it my home casino...lol. I can't even find the Super Suite on Luxor's website!

    Maybe you should just flip a coin. I am pretty sure you will get a similar offer for the next round of marketing offers, so you can book whatever you don't book this time.
     
  3. SH0CK

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    I would lean this way, especially if you plan on lowering your play at MGM properties. You never know, this could be your best chance to stay in that suite comped going forward.
     
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  4. JeJas

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    I will go with Luxor.
    For those who never stayed at Bellagio's suite, or even Bellagio's room before, the advice would be to go to Bellagio for sure.
    Luxor is not a dump, and the suite is not bad. Nothing really feel luxury, but it's OK.
    You can use the resort credit to eat at anywhere Mlife.
     
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  5. gotChopin

    gotChopin Low-Roller

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    You have a good dilemma.
     
  6. Chuck2009x

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    I'll admit I'm leaning towards Luxor, mainly so I don't have to make a side trip, and giving them all my play for the 2 nights might be an advantage. It just feels weird to leave the Bellagio gift on the table though.
     
  7. smerrian

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    The Bellagio suite is not necessarily twice as nice as the Luxor suite just because they charge twice the rate for it. You are paying for the full amenities of the property and the fact that it is an upper level property. The EXACT same room would probably be a few hundred more at the Bellagio just because it's the Bellagio. If you're not going to be spending your time at the Bellagio for their 'great' atmosphere but rather heading south to play at the Luxor anyway...stay at the Luxor...and enjoy the suite.
     
  8. jpw711

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    Which one offers smoking rooms? :D
     
    way to good of an offer to pass up - Sorry MGM Aerosmith Tower suite
  9. dnreyes23

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    Man I would go with Luxor. Seems like you had your eye on that suite, and now you got it. I like Luxor's casino floor. Especially their HL area. Private bathrooms and fast drink service. It's very small but does the job.

    Quick question for you on another topic. Any idea why my FP is $125 and RC is $100. I've never seen FP more than RC.
     
  10. Patman

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    A room that will hit you less for future offers, is where you intend to play, was on your bucket list, gives you more RC, is where you want future offers from. Sounds like a no brainer.

    My only thought against that would be if you really wanted to stay in a Bellagio suite, this probably would be your last chance if you are going to wind down your play. You could maybe still get offers for that Luxor suite or maybe even a complimentary upgrade during a future stay.
     
  11. JeJas

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    I would say it just so happened.
    My last offer was $250 FP and $200 RC. I didn't feel bad about it.
    Unfortunately the $250 FP, I gave it right back to the casino, plus some of my own.
     
  12. Geogran

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    If you decide on Bellagio, since yours is a weekend stay, there is always a chance a suite won't be available at check in. We have had Salone suite comp offers and stays, and every time I book they always tell me something along these lines "we make every effort to put you in a suite but cannot guarantee availability at time of check in so there is a possibility we would assign you a room". And we got a suite three of the four times....not an issue for us but it's something to be aware of.
     
  13. Multifarious5

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    1) Ditto Geogran Chuck---you might not get the room. I had the Salone comped on my last trip, and I was stoked. When we got there though, no salone suite, standard room only (with a fountain view, but still. A free room is a free room, but I was really looking to it!)

    2) You're looking for fill-in rooms in the future. Aria spoils me rotten, but I have not ONCE gotten a free room direct from Bellagio. Corporate? Yes. Direct? No. And you and I play about the same coin-in amounts. Geogran I think has us beat, and even she's been bumped on the Salone suite @ Bellagio.

    3) Option C...have you checked out your Mirage offer? They have a tower suite or penthouse suite that is the EXACT layout of Luxor, only nicer. And for us, it has higher RC than Aria/Bellagio ($100 RC at Bellagio/Aria for a suite, $250 RC at Mirage for a suite.). Kind of "porridge not too hot, not too cold, but perfect" for us. They also SHOULD qualify you for free filler rooms down the road, which is your goal.

    We have an offer up to a two bedroom penthouse, and you know I am a mid-roller. (We don't need the two bedroom and will just be going after the one, but I was still impressed by their generosity.) You might consider their suite, instead of Luxor or Bellagio. Geogran adores Mirage, which right there, speaks volumes in my book.

    Due to this, we are booking Mirage for our spring trip, because, like you, I want another Mlife base with easier maintainable direct offers.

    Plus, like you know, the Salone suite at Bellagio is the bottom suite, which means if you get bumped, it's a standard room. With Mirage it goes penthouse to tower to basic suite, THEN to tower rooms, so more branches to hit on the way down if you get bumped! :D :D :D

    So, my vote, consider Mirage, then Luxor, and last Bellagio. If up you get bumped to a normal room at Bellagio you are stuck with a standard room AND lower FP/RC AND aren't at a place to generate future offers.
     
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  14. Chuck2009x

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    Good points everybody. Although Bellagio actually has a surprising number of Bellagio Suites - there's 10 -12 on each floor in the Main Tower alone. I know there's fewer Salone Suites, because they're on the corners.

    Thanks for the tip @Multifarious5 I just looked and Mirage will only do a regular room.

    OK, I won't drag it out. Sticking with Luxor.

    Thanks everyone.
     
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  15. Chuck2009x

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    In my corporate offers, my FP is always the same at every property, but the Resort Credit and room type go up as you go down the pecking order, not always, but usually.

    So at the higher places, FP is higher than resort credit, and further down, RC is higher.
     
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    HI Chuck, I think Luxor sounds PERFECT then. Remember I came really, really close last trip to staying there myself. It's a cool room, and you get more RC.

    If you got bumped at Bellagio and still had low RC, I think it would have been a bummer.

    Have a GREAT trip, and may this be your best yet!
     
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  17. Candydave

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    We have stayed in both (Bellagio Spa Tower and Luxor Premier Suite) and actually like the Luxor Premier Suite. They are really nice rooms. We have also gambled quite a bit at both, and you will definitely get better offers from Luxor.
     
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  18. spicole

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    Looks like I was too late with my tuppence! I was going to vote to screw the Luxor, stay at Bellagio. It is better in every way.

    Why "ease my way out of MGM properties"? Just leave! :)

    Since you have made up your mind, though, might as well go out in style... walk over to Rx Boiler Room and get the chicken pot pie nuggets. Throw a big party in your Luxor suite!
     
  19. paperposter

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    Forget the room ur comparing motel 6 6 to the 4 seasons.it's a no brainer.
     
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