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Table Games New electronic craps table at Harrahs

Discussion in 'Table Games' started by EastCoastVegasFan!, Feb 8, 2021.

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  1. Electroguy563

    Electroguy563 Vegas Joker

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    Actually I never did like being shoulder to shoulder with a stranger at the craps table. So if they continue to keep those plastic partitions between players that's fine by me. Other than that I prefer to play at a live table. Sometimes the dealers are attractive females and not ugly old men.

    I also would try those new electronic craps tables with real dice.
     
  2. Sunshine87

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    I agree kind of on this- I don’t feel like I need to hover over my chips as much. Has to be something better than the plastic tunnel though... it’s so echoey and hard to hear anything.
     
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  3. Electroguy563

    Electroguy563 Vegas Joker

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    Ahhhh. I never thought of that. I'm hard of hearing so that would mess me up big time. I already have a hard time hearing the stick when they call out the numbers. Especially those who speak softly.
     
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  4. Sunshine87

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    When I was at Vegas in October I found it to be an issue so I went to the end of the table right near the dealer so my ears could hear the numbers and dealers otherwise I would be lost
     
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  5. Big Tip

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    I just got back from Biloxi. We played the Roll to Win craps game at The Palace Casino. All the "real" tables at both the Beau and The IP, where our split up group was staying and playing, were $15 minimum. This one was $10. I had really been wanting to play on one though so the $10 was a bonus.

    Advantages:
    -Lower minimum (at least in this Biloxi example)
    -It' about the size of the old Tubs like Casino Royale had. So if influencing the dice is possible, it's much easier doing so with the short throws on this table. MUCH easier.
    -There's no stick man to my left to poke me in the eye when I am at my favorite spot on a table; shooting right handed from the shortest point to the wall. I kept expecting the only dealer at this table, working the stick from what is the boxman's normal spot, to tell me to stop leaning so far over towards that wall. It almost felt like I could just drop the dice onto the table!
    -You don't have to waste brain power keeping track to see if the dealer is paying you correctly, Computer.
    -You don't have to worry about your cheques getting stolen.
    -It was giving credit for my play, tracking it like a video poker machine. I think it gave credit for everything, including odds. Didn't play long and earned a buffet. I'm sure this could be altered casino to casino but this one gave good credit.
    -The players positions on the table are color coded so you could easily see who is betting where(but not how much).
    -You can label your position. So I had "The Tip" on the table in front of me. Silly feature but fun.
    -It paid down to pennies, so no matter what amount you bet, you were going to get the real payoff. A $5 buy bet on the 10 would net you $9.75 for example. So you didn't have to bet $20 to get paid correctly.
    -The stations are spaced well. No more having to squeeze in between folks. Lots of room for you when you shoot.
    -Never have to worry about knocking over somebody's stack of chips.
    -There were chairs for everyone. But you did have to stand to shoot. However our table had non-shooters standing to see and be part of the action anyway. I think there would be no reason to not have the same atmosphere on this table then at a traditional table. We players were interacting a lot. And you have time to chat between rolls. (see "Disadvantages)
    -The surface is a firm but soft rubbery/plastic substance. The best thing I could come up to describe it is that it's like one of those clear erasers. But a little harder. It's not glass. So the dice don't clink when they hit. But it does make more of a noise than felt. It was not a distraction like I thought it might be. It does have two speed bumps to combat sliding.
    -There's a counter that keeps track of how many rolls you have during your shoot. They have a side bet for it too. 8 rolls you get your money back. 16 rolls 2/1. 24 rolls 5/1, and so on, up to 50 rolls that is 100/1. I never bet it, but it was fun to "compete" with your fellow players.

    Disadvantages:
    -It took at least 20 seconds between rolls because the machine would insure everyone had time to bet. Even if you were the only one at the table. That is definitely a buzz kill. Same problem I have with the Shoot to Win bubble machine.
    -Only 3X odds! A REAL disadvantage. Of course I'm sure that could be altered to anything. So that's on the casino, not on this new technology.
    -The machine was programmed to do the patter. That turned the single dealer into a bit of a robot like figure. They didn't say much. It could have been the mask thing, but still, the real person would have to time their comments between the "hot shooter", and, "would you like to make a one roll bet?" repeating comments from the machine. Think, "Push the buh-ton!" from the bubble machine. Same voice.
    -The lit up table surface would go totally blank during each roll. I thought that was strange and off putting. Why do that?
    -The machine calculates the payouts so you don't have to watch the dealers. This is only a disadvantage (I listed it under advantages too) if you get some entertainment value out of looking at your bet and calculating how much it's going to pay. Not much of a disadvantage but I did think of that during my session.
    -Can't play with the chips in your rack. Organizing, counting, looking at it grow.
    -Can't see how much other players are playing. It is equally fun to me to see the hesitant newbie playing the minimum as it is to see the guy at the $10 table with only black in his rack turning the table dark by always playing it across.

    I would for sure play at one again.
     
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  6. Calder

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    I played at the Palace on my first Biloxi trip a few months ago. If this is where craps is going, I can deal with it, though I really miss dealer interaction and handling cheques.

    Two things I thought they missed at the Palace. First, there was no place on the player terminal to bet for the stick. Weird to play a cashless game and then hand over a cash tip at the end of the session.

    I also wish they had a minimum buy-in, like on their live roulette and craps table. As I recall, the min buy-in on live craps was $100, which I thought was a good idea. It goes a long way towards preventing players who buy in for $20 and bet nothing until it's their shot. My local is sometimes plagued by guys trying to turn $15 into $250, one $5 field bet at a time.

    Two players at the Palace were pretty much just sitting and watching unless it was their roll. They plugged a couple singles in once in a while, and kept a sharp eye out for the waitress.
     
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  7. Big Tip

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    I thought of another advantage to the Roll to Win tables.
    They are almost foolproof against the dangers of playing drunk! That goes for me as the player (occasionally important:)), but also from other players. Meaning those that slow the table down doing all that drunk player stuff.
    Just remember to take your TITO slip when you leave!
     
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    I feel like it helps with not messing up other players while you're drunk, but I feel like it would be easier to mess up your own bets, bet too much, bet the wrong thing, etc... VS at a real table.
     
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  9. DaiLun

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    BFF and I were just discussing this. Gone are the days of "overrating" players. It'd be like slots, where they know EXACTLY how much you're betting.
     
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    Every journey starts with one step.

    I am still new at it, but it is a really fun game and if you happen to get on a good table, it’s something you won’t forget.

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  11. SprintGravy

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    I'm pretty sure not once in my entire life have I been ovverated at a table game.
     
  12. DaiLun

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    . . . probably because you don't tip the pit boss or the dealers. A couple of my friends who at 7* "made" it because of "overrating"..
     
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    They should lay down a sheet of silicone to give a little bounce and deaden the sound.
     
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  14. 44inarow

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    It's very relationship-oriented, to be honest. I once asked a pit boss what he was rating me at, and he asked me what I thought I should be. I said, "about $75?". He scoffed and said, "come on, you're family here, I gotta at least double that, is $150 okay?".
     
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    I definitely tip the dealers. I admit I don’t really tip the pit bosses because I didn’t even know I could or even how. I remember the first time gambling and someone tried to tip the pit boss and then she waved him off.
     
  16. DaiLun

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    You cannot tip the pit bosses directly, there are "ways" to do it. I don't exactly know how, because my table gaming days are long past. The people I know have specific crews at specific casinos that they target and are known by.
     
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  17. Jer

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    Same... I have tried in the past, but everyone of them have said thanks but no thanks. I have asked a pit who his/her favorite sports team was and bought a parlay or win the division/Super Bowl bet a few times for them. Something a bit different and always put a smile on their face. It’s been a bit since I’ve done that, so not sure if that flies or not these days. :thumbsup:
     
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  18. gambo82

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    If you really want to tip a pit or dealer use gift cards. I have done this and dealer does not have to share it other dealers, it does not go into tip pool. Visa gift cards are great for this, as they can use it for what ever they want, they get full value of tip.
     
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  19. AyDee

    AyDee is getting too old for this

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    TIL,
    never heard of tipping pit bosses.
    Envelopes have amazing powers though, I guess,
    back OT,
    if I ever see one of these DT, I prob will have to give it a whirl, for science,
    :eek:then never again, to kill the progression of these abominations..

    whatever the last lit up table version thing at Cromwell triggered me, just because the puck was virtual. Real dice, never played, at least it had real felt.

    playing with chips is fundamental,
    and I only recently realized the little game where you chuck them at the center and the dealer catches them is a nice way to keep your pitch warm..
    when you can chuck four ones in a stack and he catches them on the back of his hand you're getting in the zone.
     
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  20. Big Tip

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    It's interesting that we all get warm and fuzzy thinking about those fun dealers we've had. Or dealers that take care of you after they learn your betting patterns, "You forgot odds on your come bet" etc. Adds a lot to the experience.

    Now get real and think about all those surly dealers that do the opposite. I've left a table before because of a dealer having an intolerable case of, "I don't want to be here." Or dealers that seem to be on cooler mode when you're on a good roll. "Just give me the dice damnit!"

    So almost a wash but I will still prefer a real table. But when they are all at $25 and a light up one is $10 I won't have any problem playing on it.
     
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