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Table Games New electronic craps table at Harrahs

Discussion in 'Table Games' started by EastCoastVegasFan!, Feb 8, 2021.

  1. EastCoastVegasFan!

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    Well, looks like it’s out. Obviously a way to cut labor costs, but probably successful at cutting fun. I’ll try it before I judge, but I wonder what the minimums are at this table. If they have $25 minimums, or even $15, I’ll skip it.
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    Is this the version with real dice still?
     
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    I see a person holding a stick, and the table looks like a Roll to Win table, so I think it's the kind with real dice.

    Definitely will give it a shot and reserve my judgement until then. I think it would be a learning curve just to use the digital betting terminal when I'm so used to how it works at a real Craps table. Shoot to Win confused me the one time I tried it, hahahaha.
     
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    You do roll dice, they set the number, and bets are calculated on your screen. I like the feel of chips, except when minimums are absurd, then I will do bubble craps.
     
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    I've played this at Harrah's SoCal. While I do like the animated screen, these are the issues I had:
    - The digital interface takes a little getting used to
    - The timer goes too fast
    - The surface is plastic so the dice bounces hard and its loud
    - I miss handling chips

    I prefer normal craps.
     
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    Those are all things I was worried about o_O
     
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    Here's the video provided by the snoopers at VitalVegas.com


    Looks like a great way for beginners to learn the game without too much pressure.
     
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    As someone who's never played craps I'd consider trying this.
     
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    I'm not sure which of those two would be more infuriating to me, probably the first.. the video did not seem to show dice landing...
    If I come across it maybe I'll play sometime and yell at the shooter to push the button...
    for sure if @EastCoastVegasFan! is there.

    also don't like that $10 min on it, the VV report said there were sparsely populated $25 tables around harrahs when they spotted it, I'd like to keep the old school craps crews (and $10 min real craps) alive if at all possible..
     
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    Ditto. I haven't played this in the wild, but did fool around with it a bit in a gaming lab. I'm not opposed to it conceptually, but it's definitely not my jam.

    The noise of the dice bouncing around especially grates on me.
     
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    :haha::haha::nworthy::nworthy:
     
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    I can't wait to try it! I think I'll like a regular table better, but I still can't wait to try it. I saw this 2 years ago at the G2E (Global Gaming Expo) expo. Looking forward to being back at that, too...all things casino/hotel.
     
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    I don't find the noise a problem -- casinos are noisy anyway. But after playing 3 times in Biloxi I've found that the tables are much quieter than a live table due to a lack of interactions with dealers and other players. Far less social than at the felt.

    I had no problem getting used to the interface, though that's going to vary from person to person.

    I found there was too much time between rolls. Unless you're bet fiddler (you know who you are --- or should) there is a lot of time just hanging around waiting for the next roll. When I played, there was a 20 second betting window, plus the time taken for the stick to gather the dice and enter the roll. Once my bets were set, there was nothing to do, and no craps show to distract me.

    Part of the fun for me is that show: watching other players' bets, watching other bankrolls rise and fall, joking with the crew. There was little player interaction, no "Good hit!" encouragements because there was no dealer sliding a big stack of cheques to the winner. Despite everyone being at the same table it was a more insular experience than a live game.

    Unless you spoke with him, the stick seemed bored to tears.
     
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    Who yells at you for NOT hitting the back wall.....no roll!! Is it canned? 8’er from Decatur? Hard 8, the play for the ladies....:eek:
    Is this what it’s come to?
    Gonna miss the 50-65+ year old guys that stooped over the table for a living.
     
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    I resemble that comment.
     
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    I thought that was you......:cool:
     
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    here's the full Vital Vegas article,
    guess they maybe got this scoop correct :):p
    They said the edges of the dice occasionally brings them to a screeching halt, but will the stick yell at you about the short roll as well as the (now non existant?) surly bald boxman?
    https://vitalvegas.com/behold-the-future-of-dice-roll-to-win-craps-arrives-at-harrahs-las-vegas/

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    Q. What’s it like without felt? A. Yeah, that’s a good question. It’s weird.


    So, the surface of the Roll to Win Craps table is a sort of clear plastic. Dice players are likely to find this unnerving, as the dice just react differently when they land. Sometimes, the sharp corners of the dice dig in and the dice pretty much stop in place. There are a lot of “short rolls.”


    The sound when the dice hit is a mix. It’s either like they’re landing on glass, or they make no sound at all. Just a funky element of the game, but you get used to it.

    (one + : the display reportedly does light up with flames if you roll long enough)
     
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    The Hot Shooter bonus, if you're a fan of bonus bets.

    Bet as little as a buck before a new shooter comes out, payout is based on how many throws in that roll.

    As I recall, it paid 1:1 if you had 8 rolls, 2:1 for 16-ish, and took off from there. I think I made it to 32 rolls, paid something like 8:1. As each benchmark is met, the flames on the layout start yellow and become redder as the roll continues. I'm sure a screen capture will show the payouts. [Later: I don't see the bet offered on the screenshot of the Harrah's betting terminal on Vital Vegas. Hmmm.]

    It counted every roll of the dice; I seem to recall the boxman at the Fremont wouldn't hit the counter for comeout craps rolls. Haven't been there in a year...
     
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    Same dice!!! :p
     
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    I happened to be at Harrahs when the suits were "testing" the table...there is a stick man and real dice....my take away on the few throws I witnessed:
    - the table top is glass/plexiglass and the dice seem to skip across the table rather than "roll"...
    - the sound of the dice hitting the table can be annoying...
    - the player's betting screen looks similar to the screens found on the individual/solo crap electronic machines...
    - It seems like the dice would take a beating when hitting a hard playing surface...
    - I wonder how long it will take for someone to "scoot" the dice? ( Note: I'm pretty sure there's a speed bump across the center action bets..)
     
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