Yes, the points awarded are much less on the full pay slant tops at MSS. Station full pay games are also on a much reduced point schedule as well, and the Palms gives you zero points on their full pay machines. Not sure about 4Q, but their row of upright 10-7 machines are seriously deficient - they either play really slow, or the screens are worn out and fuzzy, or some other malfunction occurs. They seriously need some new machines, but when that happens, the full pay will also probably disappear. The FP deuces at MSS have been gone for a long time now. Sams and the Stations are the only places I know where you can still find them.