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MSS Host - Is it worth it?

Discussion in 'Comps' started by rob889, Jan 10, 2017.

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  1. rob889

    rob889 High-Roller

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    I currently book all my trips with the monthly mailer offers (3 free nights + $25 fp) and go every 2-3 months. Lately I've averaged about 25-30k per 3-night trip, even though it's more of a 2 night stay because we often arrive after midnight the first night. I've never asked for anything above and beyond what we receive and typically use up all my points each trip which covers a few meals at 777 but anything additional would be nice. Wouldn't be asking for much as I know our play is on the low end but a food credit here and there would be nice.

    I guess my main questions are:

    Is it worth having a host or will I pretty much get the same comps as I'm getting with the mailers?

    What's the minimum coin-in per day to be "deserve" a host?

    Thanks
     
  2. bluesdude

    bluesdude VIP Whale

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    I am no authority on having a host but it never hurts to ask a host for something. I have done it several times and had pretty good luck. Nothing big, a buffet her, an additional comped night there. Sometimes I get turned down, no big deal. Ask specific questions about your play and what kind of benefits it may give you. The hosts at MSS will usually tell you what your limitations are. BTW, more than once I have been able to get free buffets from Fremont, usually Sunday breakfast buffets. It's just a different place to go.
     
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  3. ritilinkid

    ritilinkid Believe it or not I'm walking on air.

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    Hell yes, at 25-30K you should be full RFB.
     
  4. eaglejohn

    eaglejohn VIP Whale

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    I don't have host and get 4 nights $75 FP and food book. over 14 days last year coin in over $100,000. I do ask for a little at end if I owe anything. But mostly use points for extra food. I did ask host if she could book us at Cal next trip and was told yes, just call. Been comped buffets at tables and through host a couple times when I ask
     
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  5. TIMSPEED

    TIMSPEED The biggest Degenerate on VMB

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    Haha not quite.
    That's $10k coin in per day..and if it's on the "good" video poker, you're generating $100 in theo..so they're only going to give you $30 of that in the form of "comps".
    In other words you're getting all you can
     
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  6. rob889

    rob889 High-Roller

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    ^this is what my concern is. I'd say about half of our play is on VP and the other half on slots. We've upped our play the last few trips but are still getting the same 3 nights + $25 slotplay so I don't know what the threshold is for the next tier of offers
     
  7. Joe

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    I've had a host at MSS for about 18 years. The same one for about the last 10. I get mailers every month that vary between 3 or 4 nights. I email my host, she makes all our arrangements and I never use the mailer. Besides that, she arranges for us to get the gold card and a suite if we want one. She will also make us dinner reservations.

    We did 6 trips in 2016. All but one, was 4 nights with just 4 days of gambling. We don't gamble on departure day. I don't get into all the details of Theo etc. but for 25 days of gambling we averaged 14,800 daily coin in on VP in 2016. We play on one card. My wife plays JOB for quarters and I usually play DDB for dollars.
     
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  8. bubbakitty

    bubbakitty Doing retirement again and happily so....

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    Also when emerald (x3) or sapphire (x2) multipliers kick up your comp points (600=1$) which allows 30,000 points a day @ 10,000 coin in a day which would equate to 50$ in food or 30$ cash.
    We are like Joe as to playing on one card. I think ONCE we had 14,000+ in one day. Usually high 8's to mid 9k. I just went for 4 nights but got there about noon and am leaving on a 7:10 am flight today. I prefer 6 nights playing hard for 5 days and taking time off to do other things.
    I have yet to have a problem getting the other nights (beyond mailer) comped. I go to the bconnected counter at mss and get breakfast for the next morning and will do a 777 for lunch / dinner 3 days and redwood once. It is not that hard to be nice and be treated similarly. But we try not to game the system either.
    Out of pocket this 4 day trip cost me tips and 7$ beyond what a as comped at redwood. I am happy except for the length of stay but that isn't their fault. Good luck.
     
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  9. rob889

    rob889 High-Roller

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    Based on my play would you recommend I look into getting a host or on my next trip should I just ask the players club if I qualify for any additional food credits/vouchers? Like I said before, all I really would like is some more of our food to be covered. I guess since I've never asked for any extras on top of the mailer I feel weird because I don't know how much or how little I would be able to get, but as others have said in the past you don't know until you ask and the worst they can say is no.
     
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    Would go to host desk next to players club and ask nicely if your play warrants any extras, like your food, etc.
     
  11. Ty

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    Here's my suggestion. From my experience the hosts at MSS prefer to give you a meal comp before you eat as opposed to taking it off your account. Go to the "host station" and just ask, "Can I get a comp for 777/Red Wood Grill/Second Street Grill at Fremont?" If the host is not there let the girl working the players club know why you're there. The hosts have an office in the back and can be called out. The players club can issue a voucher for the buffet if that's what you want.

    For $10k per day coin-in I expect you will get something.
     
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  12. bubbakitty

    bubbakitty Doing retirement again and happily so....

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    Exactly what ty suggests. Ask first. When i do they usually start with "Is 30$ enough?" Which is crazy as I can get by as a single with 20$ and use points if over. If you aren't greedy, make a face-face connection and don't try to play the system I find mss to be old school. They know in the end Boyd will be on the + side. Just let them validate it and enjoy.
     
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    Slots = good for comps
     
  14. rob889

    rob889 High-Roller

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    It would probably look better if I asked after we got some decent play for the trip then huh? Like if we arrive late on a Fri night and only get an hour or two of gambling in and asked for something "extra" the next morning the only thing we'd have to show for it would be a quick gambling session. Obviously they can look at my play from previous trips but it might be better to wait til the following evening before trying to get a food voucher. I don't know how picky they are
     
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    Yes. Even with our history we usually wait till mid to late afternoon to ask for a comp. Buffets are easier to come by.
     
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