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Mlife vs TR

Discussion in 'Comps' started by Runkle21, May 29, 2017.

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  1. Runkle21

    Runkle21 Newbie

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    Girlfriend and I are staying 1 night at Paris and 2 nights at the Mirage. Both booked through their respective site with discounts. On my last trip I spent ~1500 at various Mlife properties and received some discounted offers along with a comp at Luxor or Excalibur ( "exclusive rates in luxury resort room"). On the same trip I spent $100 or so at Ceasars but was offered comped rooms at most of their properties it looks like. I don't show anything in the my offers section of TR, but on the calendar view their comped.


    1. this time around should I primarily spend at Mirage or is TR a better way to go if I want upfront room comps. My budget for this trip is about the same.


    2. Also would I be better off spending just at one mlife casino or is it fine to spread it out?


    3. With my play ( primarily slots and video poker) what comps should I be expecting?


    In case it helps, Here are my coin in's for 2017 ( three two night trips):

    Bellagio: 4.1k

    Mandalay: 2.1k

    Mirage: 2.5k

    NYNY: 1.6k

    Monte Carlo: 1.4k


    Thanks for the help!
     
  2. MiamiDave

    MiamiDave You Can't Handle the Truth

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    You're probably getting most CET properties but only Excalibur and Luxor from MLife because they're all similar quality and pricing, for the most part. Some of the CET properties may be slightly higher priced but that's more of a reflection of their demand due to location while Excalibur/Luxor are a bit more undesirable in that sense.

    I've always heard that lower roller slot/vp comps are stronger with CET than MLife. Without more coin-in I'd guess that you're unlikely to get much more than you already have offered by Mlife. If you prefer Paris/Harrahs/Linq/Bally's/Rio to Excalibur/Luxor then I would just stick most of my play into CET. Unfortunately, in that regard, you probably would have been better off with 1 night Mirage and 2 nights Paris so that you could concentrate your limited Mlife play to only 1 day. You might lose your offers completely with Mlife after this trip if you plan to play mostly at CET properties.

    You may even want to consider some play at Gold Coast/Orleans. You'll probably get some Boyd room comps which you can combine with your CET offers to give you 3-4 nights of stays.
     
  3. DaiLun

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    The question is what do you mean by "spent". If you mean gambled, it's about the same, if you meant "spent on lodging or meals, mLife rewards 25x for $1 spend CET is only 1TC for $1 spend.

    Your slot play would have equaled little less than 2400TC at CET, and depending on how much you played on what days, that would have affected the bonus TS, that you would have earned. IMHO, because you spread the play out among several properties, it wouldn't have affected your earning power with CET, but would have greatly affected your earning power at mLife.

    Be reminded that depending on what machines you played, you could be earning at $10:1TC or $3:1TC. Most people don't pay attention to what they're earning, but at mLife, most of the Buffalo machines and "xxxxx Gold" are $10:1, this would mean even LESS TC earned.

    mLife is "property specific" meaning that they give "better" comps depending on where you spend. That being said, the better the property, the more you need to spend to get some "better" offers at that property. I earned enough to make Gold level at Aria last trip and haven't seen any better "property specific" offers for Aria/Bellagio from mLife.

    For your coin in, it probably would have been better spent with CET.
     
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    Changed from Venetian to Wynn, hope Wynn has better amenity kits
    Another NGO trip. QQQQ/NYNY
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  4. Runkle21

    Runkle21 Newbie

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    Thank you both, I generally like the Mlife properties more, but what both of you are saying lines up with what I've read about CET favoring low roller slot players. In regards to this trip, is there any use in playing mostly at CET even though I won't be staying there the other two nights?

    1500 in gambling, another few hundred on meals, shoes etc.
     
  5. Chuck2009x

    Chuck2009x VIP Whale

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    I think you'll be better off sticking with CET. At your coin in level (a little under $2k avg/night with some of it being VP), you should do better there.

    I've been reducing my play at MGM properties over the past year. On a trip in January, I averaged $2,250 coin in on slots and lost $500 on craps and this is what my latest Corporate offer looks like:

    Bellagio, Aria, Delano - discounts only
    Mandalay Bay, Mirage - one night comp weekdays
    MGM Grand - two comp nights weekdays
    Monte Carlo, NYNY, Luxor, Excal - two comp nights weekdays, $50 RC, some unspecified amount of FP.

    At CET, I think the same coin in on an ongoing basis will probably get you three nights mid-week at the bottom half of their properties. Maybe slightly better. You may have some offers with a small amount of freeplay or resort credit show up in My Offers. But I wouldn't expect too much.

    $2k coin in on slots is worth about $60 in comp value.

    As far as concentrating play: If you are staying at a single chain for your entire stay, at CET, it doesn't matter which casino you play at. At MLife, historically there has been an advantage to concentrating your play at a single property, because in addition to Corporate offers based on your overall play, each property has sent out their own offers which are calculated separately. I don;t know if they are still doing that. I still haven't gotten a property-specific offer from Luxor based on my January stay, and I would have expected to by now.

    You really asked a slightly different question, though, about how you should allocate your play on your next trip, where you are staying at Paris for 1 night and Mirage for 2.

    If you decide to target CET for future stays, then it would make sense to give all your play to them on the next trip. If you want to play each night of your trip, then it is not really going to make you look like a bigger player to CET, because your average per night will be the same. But you will accrue more tier and rewards credits at CET that way, which will be more efficient if you plan to stay there in the future instead of MLife. You won't be left with small "wasted" Express Comps and freeplay balances at Mlife that are a pain to burn off.

    If you want to play the manipulating comps game a little bit, and you don't mind not playing on one night, you could use all your bankroll on 2 nights instead of 3. Make sure your "off" night isn't the one you are staying at Paris.

    That will make your coin in average 50% higher on those two nights and should at least temporarily improve the quality/quantity of your comp availability at CET.
     
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  6. AndyAkeko

    AndyAkeko Time magazine's 2006 Person of the Year

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    Also by concentrating your play with CET, you can hit the bonus tier credits. Earn 500, get a 125 bonus. Earn 1000, get a 1000 bonus. If you get lucky and can play through 2500, you'll get a 5000 bonus which will take you to Platinum and be halfway to Diamond.
     
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